Anyone noticed Sun Vulcan blatant sexism?

No, you're just a pissy feminist who hates women that aren't bumbling, slipper-wielding bitches. It's why you hate Hina.

"Ooh, she hasn't done anything in OOO, she's just eye candy. Raw raw fight the power. Women are better than men, derp."

It's annoying.

It's annoying TO YOU because you are a male chauvinist pig who thinks women are just there to look pretty and keep you happy. Why do you hate Akiko? Because she's not a demure, quiet little nothing that you can imagine pushing around. Hina isn't real, and Riho Takada doesn't know or care that you exist. Get over it.

I do not think women are better than men. I think they should have equal roles on TV. How many men do you see in toku who simply exist to look cute and be the token guy/token love interest? NONE.*

*Maybe one, if you count Tuxedo Mask in PGSM
 
It's annoying TO YOU because you are a male chauvinist pig who thinks women are just there to look pretty and keep you happy. Why do you hate Akiko? Because she's not a demure, quiet little nothing that you can imagine pushing around.

I do not think women are better than men. I think they should have equal roles on TV. How many men do you see in toku who simply exist to look cute and be the token guy/token love interest? NONE.*

*Maybe one, if you count Tuxedo Mask in PGSM

No, I'm not a chauvinistic pig. I'm a borderline misogynist because everyone woman I've met has tried to backstab or use me. Feminists these days are a joke.

Why do I hate Akiko? Well, her general character is fucking ****. Ditzy, teenage girl with a penchant to bop the main character over the head if he goes off track for one second. Her voice also grates on me. She's loud and sounds like a chimpunk. Kind of like my mom.

I preferred Natsumi. Why? Natsumi is better-looking, she actually helped in DCD's plot (inb4 >Decade, >plot), she became a Rider and wasn't killed off a la Ryuuki, she could also keep Tsukasa under control, but knew her limits. Natsumi's voice was also softer and soothing. I REALLY tried to like Akiko but I couldn't.

As for men as love interests...

NO ****. This isn't a shoujo manga. Toku is aimed towards boys. Why would a show aimed at young men have a male love interest?

It's bad enough we went from "manly" men like Minami in BLACK to traps/femboys like Philip. What's next, a crossdressing Rider? Wait...the Luna Dopant is already a flaming gay man.

Point is, everyone is getting mad here. You are, I am, Kou is, FK is. It's the internet. Deal with it. :coolshades:
 
The message " a lot of women can be taken seriously, but it's because they're evil" is more distubing that " a minority of women can be taken seriously", because the underlying message is " good women can't be strong.

Ah, you finally came up with an interesting argument. Well, when you're dealing with shows this old, the underlying message will always be, "A good Japanese girl is going to be submissive and traditional and not do anything like what you see in this show."

That's just what Japan was like at the time. I feel like you have to look at these shows while considering that was the dominant subtext of mainstream Japanese entertainment. In light of this dominant trend, how did the show treat its recurring female cast?

I think your analysis of the female villains in Sun Vulcan is a bit flawed, from that perspective, because the female villains in that show aren't depicted as being strong because they're evil. Sun Vulcan never seems to go out of its way to explicitly connect the two qualities.

A sexist show of that era would, I think, be implying or outright stating that the female villains would somehow become good if they adopted more traditional gender roles. It would villify them as much for behaving like men as for their flamboyant evil deeds.

Sun Vulcan just doesn't do that. Sun Vulcan's female villains are written in almost the exact same ways their male counterparts of this era are, even using basically the same character types. That's basically the definition of progressive writing.

It is strange if you think it's vitally important to depict a token "good" woman who can be a hero, but... honestly, was any show, ever, improved by tokenism? Token characters are inevitably boring. Being forced to stand in for every member of a given group forces them to be bland and inoffensive.
 
No, I'm not a chauvinistic pig. I'm a borderline misogynist because everyone woman I've met has tried to backstab or use me. Feminists these days are a joke.

I have to agree with you on some of that. I think our custody/family laws in the west are fucked up and so is the media - having men as the constant butt of jokes on western TV is no better than daft girly-girl women on Japanese TV. That has nothing to do with toku however so I won't get personal with you

Point is, everyone is getting mad here. You are, I am, Kou is, FK is. It's the internet. Deal with it. :coolshades:

OK :anime:
 
It's annoying TO YOU because you are a male chauvinist pig who thinks women are just there to look pretty and keep you happy.

That's what women are meant for. Jesus said so.

Why do you hate Akiko? Because she's not a demure, quiet little nothing that you can imagine pushing around.

Some people....oh I dunnoo.... might be annoyed by her.

and I don't just imagine pushing her around I also day dream of slapping her, throwing her down the stairs if my beer is warm, and punching her in the eye if she doesn't fold my panties properly.

Hina isn't real, and Riho Takada doesn't know or care that you exist. Get over it.

MY DAD SAID SHE SAID THAT SHE KNEW ME!!!!
 
KamenRiderBiblio above. He loooves Hina

I like her character. That's all. No 3D woman would ever love me. Pic related, it's mai waifu. [hide]
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Sun Vulcan just doesn't do that. Sun Vulcan's female villains are written in almost the exact same ways their male counterparts of this era are, even using basically the same character types. That's basically the definition of progressive writing.

It is strange if you think it's vitally important to depict a token "good" woman who can be a hero, but... honestly, was any show, ever, improved by tokenism? Token characters are inevitably boring. Being forced to stand in for every member of a given group forces them to be bland and inoffensive.

I didn't say that a show needs a "token" heroine; however, in super sentai, at least one heroine in the group is the norm; besides, I'd rather have a series with only one well written heroine in a group of five than two or three bad written heroines in a group of five. Moreover, well written characters is important whether the character is male or female. If the characters are bland, no matter the race, sex, religion or whatever, it's boring.
By saying that female villains having the same characterisations than standard male villains is progressive, I don't really disagree with that.
However, I only found odd that in the one series without a heroine, you have, unlike most sentai, an overwhelming majority of female human looking villains.
Besides, these villains used monsters to fight the heroes only seldom fought them alone, and lost to them.
But as you said, different times, different mentality; Goranger, with its heroine and its female allies, was certainly very fair for its day (1975) for women.
 
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