A Public Service Announcement from DC...

[KouAidou]

I tell people that it's for kids, because I want to prepare them for the toyetic aspects they're about to see. I'll just say "it's a kid's show, but it has good fights and a good plot" or something. Most of the people I associate with will understand that "kid's show" doesn't mean "bad," because they all have their own childhood shows they're still very attached to.

 

[Black Fang]

Saying superhero shows are for everyone young and old is a matter of opinion and the person you are talking to.

Not really. Take a look at all the older people who watch the Marvel and DC movies. Few of those heroes were created solely for the enjoyment of older people, and not all of the people who watch the movies or read the comics were die-hard fans as kids either.

 

[Cypher-Z]

*ehem*

Well I guess Ultraman seems to be the lesser of the 3. In terms of childish conditions.

Well I'm probably just saying that cuz im in denial :coolshades:

 

[Painted_Outlaw]

Being a big mech anime fan its only natural this stuff would appeal to me.

You would hate Goranger and JAKQ.

 

[KamenRiderBiblio]

OP is mad. But seriously, Kamen Rider and Sentai may sometimes be used to sell toys, but the themes of soem series are rarely "child" approved.

I.e.: Black, Total Family Fun?
Or Decade/W, with dying characters? Let you kids watch it?
Kamen Rider is much deeper than toys. No matter how much you try to deny it. ALso, don't bring MMPR into a serious discussion. Americans have their Superman and ****, the Japanese have Toku. YOu don't see the japanese calling Superman an American Capitalism Embodiment, even though he is. Don't make flame threads, it's immature and, in my opinion, unwanted. Let kids do what they want, they're kids.

 

[Cypher-Z]

You would hate Goranger and JAKQ.

Hmm really? I always thought all sentai had mech in it to the least extent. I however, always despise the look of any of the giant robots they forum up, the designs are always too blocky. No matter what series.

Id rather due without them.

 

[Dami-chan]

Let you kids watch it?

But see, you're the perfect example of what we're talking about. From your cultural viewpoint these don't seem like kids shows. But they are... in Japan. The Japanese have different standards for what they let their kids watch. There is a reason they air at 8am on Sunday inside an anime block.

Your culture tells you kids shouldn't watch this type of stuff, but that doesn't change what they are. Japanese kids shows.

 

[KamenRiderBiblio]

But see, you're the perfect example of what we're talking about. From your cultural viewpoint these don't seem like kids shows. But they are... in Japan. The Japanese have different standards for what they let their kids watch. There is a reason they air at 8am on Sunday inside an anime block.

Your culture tells you kids shouldn't watch this type of stuff, but that doesn't change what they are. Japanese kids shows.

Assuming I care? It just shows Japanese are more mature than Yankees. That or they have no morals. But still, don't post just to rage. If you want to discuss ethics go to a Mormon chatroom. Here, we discuss kids' shows. Because true men embrace their inner child.

 

[ryuuseipro]

What about Ultraman? Ultraman along with godzilla always seemed to be the least concerned about marketing.

Ultraman was never created to sell toys, it was a sci-fi SPFX series to the core, focusing more on visual creativity than marketing.

The first three series (Ultra Q, Ultraman, and Ultra Seven), as supervised by Eiji Tsuburaya, were sponsored by Takeda Pharmaceutical, a medicine company. You know, much like how The Flintstones was sponsored by a cigarette company (Winston)? Except I don't know if there were any commercials of, say, Captain Muramatsu and Hayata sitting on a bench outside Science Patrol HQ and taking Takeda-subsidized asprins after a hard day's work. I'd say, the sponsorship was more on par with that of the 1966 The Green Hornet TV series, sponsored by a toothpaste (McClean) and an asprin (Vanquish).

Along with those three shows, Marusan and other companies made toys, but they were made to support the shows, not vice versa.

After Eiji Tsuburaya died, Return of Ultraman had signs of marketing, but just like the first three series, it supported the show rather than strictly sell. It was most probably starting with Ultraman Ace, where they started to have toyetic aspects (especially the TAC mecha, which looked gaudy and toy-like; they sold motorized toys and model kits of those). The Ultraman, the 1979 anime series, was the first series sponsored by Popy, which soon became Bandai.

Under Bandai, since the 80s, the Ultra Series has had some toyetic aspects, but Tsuburaya's clout demanded more creative control. So basically, Tsuburaya's design crew designs the Ultra-beings (although Bandai made some items for them, like their transformation item and even weapons), and the monsters. (Hiroshi Murayama at least designed all of the Ultramen starting with Ultraman Great.) And Bandai designs the defense force mecha/vehicles, and maybe their uniforms (which are more realistic in design, in contrast to Toei characters).

The Ultra Series was always a family thing, for kids and adults (escapist, as in sci-fi/mystery enthusiasts, and nostalgic, those who grew up with the shows).

 

[Dami-chan]

Assuming I care? It just shows Japanese are more mature than Yankees. That or they have no morals. But still, don't post just to rage. If you want to discuss ethics go to a Mormon chatroom. Here, we discuss kids' shows. Because true men embrace their inner child.

If you don't like it, stay out of the topic. I created it to have a discussion, on a discussion board -- which is what we've been doing just fine for three pages. And I like how it's too mature in one post and "kids shows" in the second. :thumbs: Way to stick your head in your ass.