Yu-Gi-Oh! pulled from North America, 4Kids sued

Who knows. It should be known as Yu-Gi-Oh!

The other series have a secondary title.
Yu-Gi-Oh! - Toei anime following the plot from the 1st volume till the 7th.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters - The original manga from the 7th volume till the last.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX - "Sequel" to Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters 5D's - Stand alone series set in the future Yu-Gi-Oh! universe.
 
Why do people insist on using "Season zero" to describe the first YGO series?:redface2::sly:

In this instance I can sorta see your point. What with us all being familiar with the series. However. In most cases when you say "The first yugioh series" People are either gonna think "theres more than one?" or assume you're talking about duelist kingdom.

So it's mostly just a habit (that i have very little intention of breaking :P) to call it season zero
 
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No, no it doesn't

Jesus, I swear..........

WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE 5D'S?!

IT'S NOTHING SPECIAL, UNIQUE, OR INTERESTING!

IT'S THE SAME THING WITH EVERYONE THINKING THAT RPM IS THE BEST POWER RANGER SERIES WHEN IT'S NOT

I'm going to blow your mind right now...

Ready? Sometimes people will have disagree with your opinions...but their views are just as valid because no one's opinion is more right than someone else (at least that's what they say)
 
Why does it have to be original VA's? If we were to get an uncut version of Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters with new voices, then we could carry those same voices over for the first Yu-Gi-Oh! series and beyond. It's not like the 2 voices for Yugi and Yami Yugi, nor the brooklyn accent for Jonouchi or "Joey", was faithful to the source material. Don't get me wrong, I honestly think that Funimation really could make that happen. I think they could get the original VA's from 4Kids to come in and do an uncut dub, but I'd really rather see Funimation do their own thing. It's not like 4Kids never released DVDs or anything of their shows.

But chances are, unless the Japanese producers really want a renewal, then the closest will get for an uncut version of the shows and episodes that have all ready aired, is a subtitled-only release online. I think 4Kids has all ready been giving us that on their YouTube channel, correct? And if Funimation gets the rights, they'll probably just continue that tradition. I honestly think the only thing the Japanese producers want is for us to broadcast the new stuff on television and keep the card game promotions going.

I have to disagree with this. You do not realize that we've had the same VAs for the first Yugioh series for its entire run before GX and regardless if it was accurate to the source material or not with the voices , they are what people see as the voices for those characters. Changing them like they changed Pokemon's would just piss people off more than it would help; in fact , besides the repetitive plots and Ash never aging or leaving, the voices made me drop the dubbed version of the show for good. Also , it's far more expensive to redub an entire effing series when you can just use the same ones to dub uncut versions whenever there was not in fact an uncut version made for it . If they are to buy the series , they should try to keep the fans happy ,right?

The one series they should redo is 5D's because the editing was bullshit to say the least. If the show is geared towards kids ,I do not think children will care if a card has Japanese or English on the card unless they are fucking crazy nazi-jihadist zombies with no sense of an outside world beyond their own that doesn't speak their native language so to speak. I never seen people complain in those foreign countries of the foreign text , in fact it gives it a flavor or another's culture and lifestyle. And as I mentioned before , it's a kids show , so I highly doubt anyone would care unless it had any inappropriate content in it ala skimpiness or excessive violence. But this is a show on a card game right now so discount that.


I'd rather them remake the first season almost exactly like the manga ala Brotherhood than release a season which really did not do the early manga justice . If they can afford to do so , I would recommend them do it as a refresher before they do anime adaptations from the newer mangas like Millennium World and R . This comes from the viewpoint that the first safga of Yugi and the Millennium backstory is far more liked than the sequels though those are good in their own right. Then after those or on the side ,release Zexal and 5D's.
 
Changing them like they changed Pokemon's would just piss people off more than it would help;

Meh, worst we'd probably get is just another pathetic SOVA routine. :laugh:
(Seriously, did that ever amount to anything?)

Also , it's far more expensive to redub an entire effing series when you can just use the same ones to dub uncut versions whenever there was not in fact an uncut version made for it .
If I recall right, didn't the dub VA's try to give a more accurate performance on 4kids' uncut dvd's and it resulted in really stited performances? *scratches head*

If they are to buy the series , they should try to keep the fans happy ,right?
That is a whole bucket of worms, dude. :P

The one series they should redo is 5D's because the editing was bullshit to say the least.
Isn't it BS with every show they dubbed?
( ゚∀゚)アハハ八八ノヽノヽノヽノ \ / \/ \

I never seen people complain in those foreign countries of the foreign text , in fact it gives it a flavor or another's culture and lifestyle.

I agree, too bad we're still feeling "no kanji in these shows" with Pokemon nowadays. *sigh*
 
The one series they should redo is 5D's because the editing was bullshit to say the least. If the show is geared towards kids ,I do not think children will care if a card has Japanese or English on the card unless they are fucking crazy nazi-jihadist zombies with no sense of an outside world beyond their own that doesn't speak their native language so to speak.
The cards are changed cause else they would have to pay extra for each episode due to something thing I can't really remember :sweat:
I'd rather them remake the first season almost exactly like the manga ala Brotherhood than release a season which really did not do the early manga justice . If they can afford to do so , I would recommend them do it as a refresher before they do anime adaptations from the newer mangas like Millennium World and R . This comes from the viewpoint that the first safga of Yugi and the Millennium backstory is far more liked than the sequels though those are good in their own right. Then after those or on the side ,release Zexal and 5D's.
Problem is, NAS and TV Tokyo only have rights for the Duel Monsters series. While Toei sit with the first season. Though an OVA movie series covering Yu-Gi-Oh! R would be pretty cool.
 
Does anyone else find this a bit funny?

I mean, Yugioh's going to back to being kid friendly with Zexal, and now 4kids can't even dub it.
 
I have to disagree with this. You do not realize that we've had the same VAs for the first Yugioh series for its entire run before GX and regardless if it was accurate to the source material or not with the voices , they are what people see as the voices for those characters. Changing them like they changed Pokemon's would just piss people off more than it would help; in fact , besides the repetitive plots and Ash never aging or leaving, the voices made me drop the dubbed version of the show for good. Also , it's far more expensive to redub an entire effing series when you can just use the same ones to dub uncut versions whenever there was not in fact an uncut version made for it . If they are to buy the series , they should try to keep the fans happy ,right?

I am glad that you are challenging me on the point I was making (glad SOMEONE is, anyways). And I like the points you are trying to make, but I feel like your points are based mostly on conjecture...

I understand how iconic and big the series is. But like Cirno said, that's a big can of worms. I dare say that at least half of the VA's that work for 4Kids are really terrible and not at all as talented as they seem. People like Funimation always have more talented people. That might be why the acting on 4Kids' attempt at an uncut dub was "stited", as Cirno said. Take Funimation's dub of One Piece, the voices are just as perfectly matching to the Japanese voices and the acting is leagues better. I've seen Funimation bring in voice actors that weren't part of their cast of regulars, but if they brought in the 4Kids VA's, they'd have to do some really good directing to improve their performance. Not that I'm against it, I just honestly believe that Funimation has better talent under their sleeves.

Honestly, I don't believe that changing the VA cast would hurt things that much. Even Funimation as VAs talented enough to imitate and sound just as good the previous voices. They did this before once with DBZ before making the dub their own thing. And let's be honest, if the Pokemon anime is failing, it's not because they changed the VAs or gave the dubbing rights to a different company. The new VAs have picked up just fine where the old ones left off, even if there was a rough start. The only reason why Pokemon is failing is because of the other reasons you said. Ash never aging, repetitive plots and cliches, lack of originality, etc. Sounds more like you've outgrown Pokemon, as have I. But it was never the change in VAs that caused it to go downhill or caused me to stop watching. And that anime is still on the air and probably still appeals to kids, so it must be doing something successful.

I think a change in VAs would be noticed, but if people are only watching it an enjoying it for the show itself and not caring about anything else, then they'll get use to it and will soon welcome the new cast. And I don't think it would effect sales either, because it's not the VA cast that determines if DVDs and merch will sell or not. It might be a factor for some customers, but it's not a major determining factor.

The cards are changed cause else they would have to pay extra for each episode due to something thing I can't really remember :sweat:

Problem is, NAS and TV Tokyo only have rights for the Duel Monsters series. While Toei sit with the first season. Though an OVA movie series covering Yu-Gi-Oh! R would be pretty cool.

Probably would have to pay the company that owns the rights to the actual card game. Either way, even if a new uncut dub is made for Yu-Gi-Oh!, that is the one thing I don't mind still being changed, the names of the cards. You pretty much have to make sure that the dubbed name of the cards matches with the cards being sold in the States. That's how you promote it effectively.
 

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