Why wasn't Ryuki as popular as Madoka got?

it probably wasn't popular due to first glance, you wouldn't think the brand "Kamen Rider" would have a huge adult/teen following, let alone in japan where it's big fanbase are 4-7 year olds. the same could be said to the magical girl genre but then again an hardcore anime fan would know about it from person to person, especially in the internet age where even an anime like lucky star got popular. it also might have something to do with kamen rider stepping out of it's average format for the first time in the series, sure it's common now in days but back then this was something people had to get used to and could had hurt the show badly in terms of fanbase. while madoka was a fresh new anime unrelated to other magical girl anime, so it build a fanbase with a clear mindset.
 
I think many have already stated this, but while the genre and fan demographic undeniably have something to do with it, in my opinion, Ryuki's characters weren't as interesting nor was the show as well written as Madoka.
 
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Of course the moe anime is going to be more popular. This is just common sense. I also don't like Ryuki's story that much, but it is a crap load better than Madoka. Madoka is just a badly done anime about magical Girls. The only reason it got as much attention as it did is because of how "dark and adult" it is with "DEATH"
 
And just what was it about that show that made it stand out from other Magical Girl animes? What was the key thing that made it different?

With Madoka, Urobuchi applied real-world morality to a child-centric fantasy genre in the same way Frank Miller applied real-world morality to the superhero genre in The Dark Knight Returns -- and he came out with a similar, cynical product. Urobuchi asks the question, "what would it be like if this concept existed in our world," and answers it by exploring the realistic emotional and physical ramifications of every trope the genre is built upon. In the world of Madoka, Magical Girls are stand-ins for child soldiers and child prostitutes -- naive children who are sold a beautiful fantasy in order to indenture them into a life of constant horror and exploitation. Madoka is the only time I've seen that (seemingly obvious) allegory applied to magical girls -- and the result is an incredibly unique series that explores a lot of new ground and has a lot to say about the sometimes terrible world we live in.

The series points out how exploitative, horrific, and abusive the whole notion of a magical girl would be in real life. It elaborates at length on how the genre is built upon the manipulation and exploitation of naive young girls who accept horrific and deadly responsibilities without an understanding of the fatal ramifications -- while being promised a fabulous fantasy existence that never materializes. And it does this while being a great representation of the genre it's actively criticizing -- which is no easy feat!

It has something to say about how we unfairly exploit youth/the next generation for our own selfish gain. In this allegory, Kyubey represents the adults (or the media) that sell fantasies to children in order to manipulate them into doing things that rob them of their childhoods.

Watching Madoka is the anime equivalent of watching fame crush once-innocent child actors like Lindsey Lohan, Amanda Bynes, and Miley Cyrus. These are women who transformed from angelic pop culture princesses into demonic, troubled "witches." They were sold fantasies where all their dreams would come true (fame), but the hidden price for the fantasy was sexual exploitation, dehumanizing commodification, drug addiction, and their very innocence. If you've watched Madoka, you can see that the series is not subtle about drawing the comparison between washed-out teen idols and magical girls.

The fact that it's about anything larger at all immediately sets it apart from other entries to the genre -- which tend to be sugary, meaningless wish-fulfillment fantasies for little girls.
 
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If it's just about child soldiers and a twisted sort of "fantasy", its actually a really old concept in anime and has been done before, and in bigger franchises. Like Gundam. Or Naruto (to a certain extent).
 
And just what was it about that show that made it stand out from other Magical Girl animes? What was the key thing that made it different?

That... wasn't part of what I was trying to get at there, at all. But to answer your question, maybe it stood out because of the Faust allegory that the show used(?).
 
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Of course the moe anime is going to be more popular. This is just common sense. I also don't like Ryuki's story that much, but it is a crap load better than Madoka. Madoka is just a badly done anime about magical Girls. The only reason it got as much attention as it did is because of how "dark and adult" it is with "DEATH"

My point is, both have the same story, just with different trappings.

Except one was done to cash in on young kids and the latter to appeal to adult otaku. Now, who is more vocal on the internet?
 
You know, I would love a show that would show you the true horrors of being a Kamen Rider. Ryuki tried, but it'sn not that horrible as Madoka. And yeah, I realize it's because Ryuki is a kid's show.

Both shows shook up the format, but Madoka pushed the boundries and broke them. It deserves all the praze it gets. It tore my heart out and left it to bleed. God, so many feels that show gave me. Ryuki? Not so much...
 
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