Which Sentai Heroine is the MOST BAD-ASS???

[Goty]

I wouldn't say they got less capable on the whole, although I do think the swelling toy lines sort of bias the shows against emphasizing the ladies. So you really only get super-strong women in the newer shows when the creative team decides to make that a creative priority for the show. (Kyoryuger is a good example of this-- Amy clearly is what she is because of Sakamoto.)

In Ahim's case, she's a heart-of-the-team character, so her dependence on the others is depicted as positive. Older shows were generally less touchy-feely with the characterization, so there was narrative room for the women to be depicted primarily as heroic ideals who possess extraordinary strength. In Gokaiger, that sort of character would be out of place.

I've been thinking about that after i replied about Mei, and i kinda believe that line of thinking isn't limited to girls..nowadays, a character needs to be clearly written as strong and badass to be recognized by fans as such, while back in the day, although characterization usually wasn't as strong, everyone was allowed to be a badass, even lesser members of the teams - the fact they were much more inclined to do extended action scenes by themselves and do things like run amidst explosions probably helped to create this image, too.
I bet people would rarely list modern characters in their "badass" ranks, be it guys or girls.

 

[Burkion]

I realize I need to comment on the actual thread instead of just shaking my head at the modern sensibilities of Sentai so I have three to nominate.

Yellow Four 1, for kicking ass and taking names and defending her team to the death.

Yellow Mask for being a badass ninja who took on a MOTW and TWO Generals in a ninja duel and came out on top.

And Pink Mask for holding off the entire villain forces and then single handedly taking down the MOTW so Blue could save the others.

 

[kuroihikari]

And Pink Mask for holding off the entire villain forces and then single handedly taking down the MOTW so Blue could save the others.

And in a later episode beat a MOTW by herself mostly in her untransformed form. All of it just to make a point to some kids.

Bad things happened afterwards, but still.

 

[KamenRiderLeo]

I would have to say, KakuWhite or TimePink. as far as both. I'll have to re watch the shows and take linear notes to be as accurate as I can be

 

[UkiyaSeed]

I would have to say, KakuWhite or TimePink. as far as both. I'll have to re watch the shows and take linear notes to be as accurate as I can be

I think you mean Ninja White...

 

[Ms. Pink]

I've been thinking about that after i replied about Mei, and i kinda believe that line of thinking isn't limited to girls..nowadays, a character needs to be clearly written as strong and badass to be recognized by fans as such, while back in the day, although characterization usually wasn't as strong, everyone was allowed to be a badass, even lesser members of the teams - the fact they were much more inclined to do extended action scenes by themselves and do things like run amidst explosions probably helped to create this image, too.
I bet people would rarely list modern characters in their "badass" ranks, be it guys or girls.

That's why I love the older super sentai heroines more than modern days. They let them be bad-ass (even single handedly fight MOTW). Old times heroine seems to have their own finisher to MOTW.

Man, Toei and Bandai know. One of the traditional fujoshi warning signs is being a grown woman who's into Sentai and buying/displaying Sentai goods. Bandai just doesn't care to pursue that market more aggressively, at least not outside of Akibaranger.

But that market really has never had anything to do with how women in the show are written, since generally a Sentai season's characterization is totally disconnected from its toy line. I mean, there's no reason for those two things to coincide at all-- I doubt Kyoryu Blue's toys make oyaji gags.

You make a point. If so, I guess, there's no harm to let modern days heroine to shine their badass moves. I wonder what if they focus on more martial art ability than pretty and young faces in terms of casting heroines.

What? There's no Nossan doll with a string for you to pull and he'll make a terrible pun? :bawling:

Sakamoto has absolutely no desire for Amy to be a strong character, he just wants a lot of gratuitous ass/leg shots. I would also guess the change in the writing of Sentai heroines has a lot to do with fanservice and wanting to appeal to male otaku - which is probably also why most of the actresses are now 16/17-year-old girls

That's so sad but true for nowadays. The writers and directors should focus more on woman power rather than token girl when writing heroine focus episodes, at least. :170:

It's a fair guess, pretty much all the leading ladies in stuff he directs are "action girls" just so he can film a ton of ass/leg shots. But you're right, maybe I'm being too harsh on him, Sanjo seems to have a more positive view of female strength than does the producer and Sakamoto could be the same way.

It's just the style he's known for? But I'm not hating on him, he's still a much-praised action director, and I bet a lot of guys would like to be in his place

That's true ... though I still can't imagine them casting a heroine of Nossan's or Ryuji's age unless she were a Swan/Miyuki figure who isn't a full-time Ranger

Could you please enlighten me the number of writers and directors of super sentai, their writing style, how they write about heroines in your opinion? Cos' I haven't watched all sentai series (I'm kinda beginner to know deeply about Super Sentai), so, I don't know them well.

 

[lazycoconut]

Could you please enlighten me the number of writers and directors of super sentai, their writing style, how they write about heroines in your opinion? Cos' I haven't watched all sentai series (I'm kinda beginner to know deeply about Super Sentai), so, I don't know them well.

I don't know a lot about that, someone like Lynxara would have much more to say (and I'd love to hear it) but Sakamoto has a reputation for tons of sexy girl fanservice in his work. Riku Sanjo, the head writer of Kyoryuger, gets a bit of criticism for the way he writes female characters - in particular, Akiko Narumi (from Kamen Rider W) and the Aquarius arc of Fourze. But most people seem to think KyoryuPink is OK.

 

[Lynxara]

Right now that's hard, given that Sentai is in a transitional phase and there's not a consistent talent pool it pulls from. Each season has, pretty much, completely different core creators.

Sakamoto is known for liking to shoot sexy women, but he likes to shoot sexy women doing action scenes. So that means in a Sakamoto work, women will get to be badasses, sometimes bigger badasses than their male counterparts. Even if you argue that he just does this because it turns his crank, he's still doing it. So in getting good shots of Mizuho Nogawa's legs, Sakamoto has also devoted entire episodes to showing the character beating the **** out of all the bad guys. To me, it means that in Sakamoto's projects, women feel more forceful and more like equals. I don't really care why the guy does it, I'm just glad he does it and I hope he keeps doing it.

Riku Sanjo is fairly bad at writing women who don't conform to stereotypical roles. While Kyoryuger has a lot of elements that downplay this flaw, I think it's still present. The show has only three recurring female roles, and they're all fairly stereotypical. That said, they're all competently-written stereotypes, and Sanjo is clearly straining to make them all feel like quirky individuals. So I find them tolerable, although I wish Sanjo would aim a bit higher.

 

[FreedomR8G6B1]

Sakamoto is known for liking to shoot sexy women, but he likes to shoot sexy women doing action scenes.

The Trash Yummy that got it's neck broken by Satonaka's leg during Movie War Mega Max:

"I REGRET NOTHING!!!"

 

[Sentaifan'07 Xman]

My top favorite bad-ass Sentai Heroines:
1. Ninja White/Tsuruhime
2. Time Pink/Yuuri
3. Hurricane Blue/Nono Nanami
4. Deka Yellow/Reimon Marika/Jasmine
5. Bouken Pink/Nishihori Sakura
6. Geki Yellow/Uzaki Ran
7. Shinken Pink/Shirashi Mako
8. Gokai Yellow/Luka Millfy
9. Gokai Pink/Ahim de Famille
10. Go Pink/Tatsumi Matsuri