Watchmen Trailer

[Kenori]

I read Watchmen and while I will admit that it is a good piece of literary comic writing. I fucking HATE it! It, and Batman the Dark Knight are the reasons that comics stopped being about heroes and started being about dicks with guns with no moral compass. Seriously, none of these people are actually heroes (Okay, Owlman is- but he's alone with assholes and sluts in this story) and in the end they accomplish nothing. Allan Moore only knows how to write pessimistic stories with a pornographic bend that cater to the base nihlism of the 1980's "Me Generation."

The example set in this comic paved the way for Wanted which is such an adolescent piece of crap - yet because it follows the Moore pattern of "Bad guys win and the good guys have to be worse to win" with ample cursing, and killing that people think it's brilliant. Watchmen and Allan Moore turned comics into an excuse to indulge base violent fantasies on paper.

That Said. I understand that I don't have to read it and that they have the right to publish it. I understand the idea of free speech and all that jazz, but I still feel intense dislike and dissappointment for what Watchmen did to comics and what it would have done to comic movies, had they not already have been ruined by movies made by later Alex Moore comics

And see, here is a prime example of how people can read the exact same thing and take two completely different meanings from it. DKR wasnt about ultraviolence at all. It was about the world going to hell, and Batman having to come back from retirement to stop it. I've read the watchmen, I love the book, and the ending was just brilliant, even if they stole it from an old twilight zone episode. Wanted again is one of those comics with an underlying message, even if it is a little bit brutal. It basically says "Stop being a sheep. Grow a pair of balls and DO something with your life." I thought it was actually quite inspirational.

 

[Domino 555]

You know, as much as I hate how Watchmen had such a negative effect on the industry, I would hate to see a world without it, without it books like Astro city or other reconstructive works might not be published,as much as it had a negatvie effect there are still books like the Blue Beetle who know that your hero can have flaws and still be a hero.

 

[Kenori]

So you dont like your superheroes being like normal people?

Not just have flaws, but be normal, and just trying to help the world?

 

[Domino 555]

No what I meant is that Watchmen somehow gave everyone the idea that all heroes had to be like all flaws, one of the major things I like about Watchmen was that the heroes were really trying to change things for the better and it showed how hard it would be to save the world from the villain and examined what would happen if the heroes arrived late, the people had flaws sure but some were trying to change for the better and that what makes it great, the characters are the most complex i almost any medium and is one of my favorite comics of all time so yeah I love Watchmen to pieces and recommend it like crazy in fact I want to read it again now, and just to clarify what I meant that some less talented Writers thought it was good is your characters were all flaws it meant you were being a good writer or something so yeah it an amazing read but look at the comics it left in it's wake.

 

[Tanuki]

Like I said, it's a very good book, but I hated the people in it. I wouldn't give these people the time of day if I knew them. the only one I like is Owlman... and MAYBE his/Dr. Manhatten's/The Green Bay Packers' girlfriend, though she was jailbait and that's just wrong.

And like Domino said, it made some good comics, but it also left comics in it's wake that were crass and violent for the sake of being crass and violent. Wanted is considered a "mature" title, but It's completely jouvenile and adolescent when you really sit down to read it. The Comedian is the archtype for every gun toting, cigar smoking, cussing, raping, killing, sexual deviant (he wears a damn gimp mask!) "Superhero" of the late 80's and early 90's.

 

[Kenori]

So you're judging a book by its imitators? Watchmen can't help what it left in its wake. It wasnt Allen Moore's fault that comic books became more adult. Honestly the Watchmen is the most accurate take I've ever seen of what would happen if a bunch of NORMAL human people decided to put on spandex and fight crime.

As for DKR, I still say it was the best thing that ever happened to the DCU, short of the original Crisis. I mean, look at Batman before that. It was so campy and stupid that no one would read it. Same goes with just about every DC superhero. DKR singlehandedly brought DC back into the adult limelight.

Now Wanted, well if you've ever set down and read Wanted, you'll see it has a very good message too it, wrapped up in as much blood and violence of course.

Honestly though, would you really want comics to go back into the campy kiddy Dark Ages again?

 

[Punk]

http://www.empireonline.com/video/watchmen/


I hate seeing cool trailers after hearing the screenplay sucks :laugh:

:O_O: :buttrock:

 

[Domino 555]

Again I'm not judging Watchmen by it imitators! Read my first post in conjunction with my last Post, I love Watchmen hell I even liked DKR, and I am glad that Watchmen was made, but I guess what it comes down too is that more than anything else I want people to get the right message from Watchmen, just make good comics that can be dark but not juvenile, that was the point of Watchmen comics can be for adults and be a great story compare it to a book like Doom Patrol or Flex Mentallo on how Superheroes don't have be totally Juvenile and can be more mature while saving the world and being people with flaw or have no flaws and still be great. Watchmen was about expanding what comics could do and say, and that is it's legacy in my mind. The only problem is that to creators it said all comics had to be dark and not a lot of writers could pull it off, Alan Moore wanted the genre to expand not become something else entirely, and and one more Thing I would love if comics could be campy and also be dark not just one or another there both great if you keep an open mind.

 

[Kenori]

I'll agree with that.

 

[Skinwalker]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2008/jul/25/my.chemical.romance.cover.dylan

It really is going to suck... :disappoin