Something that should be needed for a kamen rider anniversary season.

Ever since that kamen rider drive main theme will be cars and less on motorcycles though it is possible that it will change into a motorcycle it made me wonder it might not have the insect theme ,it will have many riders just like gaim and the early heisei ones including a secondary rider not a solo rider like how the showa series and kuuga did and it doesn't have a cyborg theme just once it feels as if the franchise is not kamen rider anymore but some different franchise and kamen rider is part of it just like how the gorangers is part of super sentai franchise. You know what ryuki should have been a revival of the metal heroes franchise instead since it has some metal hero theme elements.

Anyway if an anniversary season comes i think that the next kamen rider series in 2015 or 2016 after drive should go back to its old roots like the ones back in the showa days including kuuga such as just one solo rider fighting against the evil beings with the help of non powered friends,using motorcycles,a insect theme and a cyborg theme Plus have a end credit thing the latter one is optional.

Another option have a secondary rider but make him look like the riderman the one without mouthpiece except in his 'Super form" when he receives a mouthpiece.

Also maybe for something special in the anniversary an anime special crossover starring ichigo and nigo and the gorangers in ishinomori manga style with a original story because the tokusatsu franchise garo has an anime spinoff now.
 
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raden238

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Ok for sure we aren't getting another Solo Rider show ever. Secondary Riders = more toys to sell. However, they can just go nuts on the Solo Rider and just release more toys/gear for him to compensate but that will never happen.

As for going back to the Cyborg Roots or Insect theme, I would really like to see that. But it's unlikely. If anything I hope they can create a Rider belt that resembles the Showa Rider belts, with the circle in the middle and spins. The last Rider belt paid homage to those designs was the Decadriver. The collectible gimmick can be disks and the henshin/form changes/rider kick can be activated by inserting the disk and then some led lights and spin action. That is something I would like to see.
 

PalleteRider

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If anything, I want the belt to be part of the body, like the Showa Riders, Kuuga and Agito. The last one to have that was Phillip from W.
 
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raden238

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Doesn't Wizard count as well?? (Yes I know in episode 2 the White Wizard, gave him the physical Wizardriver but after that it was apart of Haruto's body.)
 
Ok for sure we aren't getting another Solo Rider show ever. Secondary Riders = more toys to sell. However, they can just go nuts on the Solo Rider and just release more toys/gear for him to compensate but that will never happen.
That's the problem what wrongs with a solo rider show these days it doesn't matter about releasing more toy and gears to compensate its to tell a story its to go back to the roots where the hero was once fighting his own enemies to save innocent lives with a little help from his non powered friends .
The only problem is that the show now fuels by 'Merchandising' and money by selling toys with collectibles.

As for going back to the Cyborg Roots or Insect theme, I would really like to see that. But it's unlikely. If anything I hope they can create a Rider belt that resembles the Showa Rider belts, with the circle in the middle and spins.The last Rider belt paid homage to those designs was the Decadriver. The collectible gimmick can be disks and the henshin/form changes/rider kick can be activated by inserting the disk and then some led lights and spin action. That is something I would like to see.

Yeah that would be nice to have the cyborg roots and insect theme back for an anniversary season and that's a great idea about using discs as collectibles maybe a disc should be used to give power to the rider and can be used in different varieties

If anything, I want the belt to be part of the body, like the Showa Riders, Kuuga and Agito. The last one to have that was Phillip from W.

Doesn't Wizard count as well?? (Yes I know in episode 2 the White Wizard, gave him the physical Wizardriver but after that it was apart of Haruto's body.)

raden238 is right you know
 

PalleteRider

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Doesn't Wizard count as well?? (Yes I know in episode 2 the White Wizard, gave him the physical Wizardriver but after that it was apart of Haruto's body.)

Wait, it is? I thought he did took it off in one episode? (unless I'm thinking of something else)
 
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raden238

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Wait, it is? I thought he did took it off in one episode? (unless I'm thinking of something else)

That was Beast. He took off his driver during the Beast Hyper arc and in Sengoku Movie Battle. Wizard never took his driver off. It was always apart of Haruto's body since he summoned it using the Driver On ring.
 

Shogun_Master

Why is every good TV show Cancelled
I doubt they'll go back too much. Part of what the Heisei era is doing that has allowed it to run syndication longer than any other period in the show's history is the diversity from year to year. Almost all of the original Rider shows in the 70s & 80s were almost exactly the same.

It makes it harder to catch & hold the average person's attention when you're completely changing the characters & story from year to year, but are still essentially making the same thing. It bothers people who like consistency & find it harder to relate to characters & fall into a show. If the theme, basic idea & tech differ completely from year to year, then it feels like an entirely new show & can get average people hyped & interested.

They might pay homage with series' like Kuuga, Kabuto or Decade when it's due, but it's highly unlikely they'll go into full on Showa in the series anytime soon.

Not to mention, the production isn't exactly organized. The toy company artists are formed into a group, brainstorm an idea, do variations on the artwork until the boss is impressed, then ship it over to Toei to hire a producer & head writer, who then hires a team to turn whatever they got into a viable show. No one is all working together from the beginning to work towards a single goal.
 

Murphy

Member
... Hang on, ever since Drive's theme is cars? We don't know that. We don't know that at all, unless there's been an announcement that I missed.

'Gaim' implies nothing about it being about fruit, 'Fourze' doesn't suggest anything about astronauts, 'OOO' doesn't say anything about the fact that he's animal themed. We don't know what Drive's theme is.

And I realise that there's been rumours of a wheel theme design, but there's also been random pictures of sports cars with 'IS THIS DRIVE?!?!?!', and at this time last year we were hearing that Gaim would have swords based on previous riders. At this time when Double was being announced, we were hearing that he'd be a dolphin rider with a transparent suit.
 

NeonZ

Active Member
I doubt they'll go back too much. Part of what the Heisei era is doing that has allowed it to run syndication longer than any other period in the show's history is the diversity from year to year. Almost all of the original Rider shows in the 70s & 80s were almost exactly the same.

It makes it harder to catch & hold the average person's attention when you're completely changing the characters & story from year to year, but are still essentially making the same thing. It bothers people who like consistency & find it harder to relate to characters & fall into a show. If the theme, basic idea & tech differ completely from year to year, then it feels like an entirely new show & can get average people hyped & interested.

I don't think that really lines up. V3, which easily the most derivative show, also was the most successful out of the Kamen Rider sequels. Shows that attempted different things like X (which had a completely new story and very different hero and enemy designs) and Amazon (with yet again different visual design, and a very unconventional protagonist) seemed to be the least successful ones and forced to undergo changes to become more like the previous shows. Even Stronger had to get its protagonist "sanitized" to be more heroic in later episodes.

So, Showa Rider seemed to be punished for trying different things. You talk about Heisei Rider being different, but we just went through four years where even character debuts and "deaths" had specific timings in multiple series. Of course, they seemed to realize that it was a bad idea, and so we got Gaim.
 
I doubt they'll go back too much. Part of what the Heisei era is doing that has allowed it to run syndication longer than any other period in the show's history is the diversity from year to year. Almost all of the original Rider shows in the 70s & 80s were almost exactly the same.

It makes it harder to catch & hold the average person's attention when you're completely changing the characters & story from year to year, but are still essentially making the same thing. It bothers people who like consistency & find it harder to relate to characters & fall into a show. If the theme, basic idea & tech differ completely from year to year, then it feels like an entirely new show & can get average people hyped & interested.

They might pay homage with series' like Kuuga, Kabuto or Decade when it's due, but it's highly unlikely they'll go into full on Showa in the series anytime soon.

Not to mention, the production isn't exactly organized. The toy company artists are formed into a group, brainstorm an idea, do variations on the artwork until the boss is impressed, then ship it over to Toei to hire a producer & head writer, who then hires a team to turn whatever they got into a viable show. No one is all working together from the beginning to work towards a single goal.


Hmmm, You might be right the reason each shows in the heisei riders show is different is because they need to make sure they don’t want to be similar to each other’s predecessors But what’s wrong with a bit of nostalgia we need nostalgia from both showa and heisei rider series in the anniversary season like bringing back the insect and cyborg theme just once (my favorite part nanobot type and a secondary rider with no mouth piece like riderman except his super form) and have some end credit thing like how kuuga did I mean if they keep on diversing from their predecessor seasons fully it feels the heisei rider franchise doesn’t look kamen rider anymore just some different franchise show .
And you might be right about the production that isn’t fully organized ,it feel as though toy thing comes first as if they focus on toys rather than the story and the show. In order to be organized only the ones who make the story and concept to do that for example first the studio who makes the franchise should come up with concept for next season then find some writer to think of a story until the board of executives not only accept the concept but the story as well and then have it send to Bandai (the toy company) to make the figures and forms, That's how it is.

I don't think that really lines up. V3, which easily the most derivative show, also was the most successful out of the Kamen Rider sequels. Shows that attempted different things like X (which had a completely new story and very different hero and enemy designs) and Amazon (with yet again different visual design, and a very unconventional protagonist) seemed to be the least successful ones and forced to undergo changes to become more like the previous shows. Even Stronger had to get its protagonist "sanitized" to be more heroic in later episodes.

So, Showa Rider seemed to be punished for trying different things. You talk about Heisei Rider being different, but we just went through four years where even character debuts and "deaths" had specific timings in multiple series. Of course, they seemed to realize that it was a bad idea, and so we got Gaim.

Hmm you might be right about the showa part .:disappoin
 

Amon

New Member
Kuuga did just fine with a solo rider and is the reason why we had Rider shows yearly for the past decade. I think another solo rider show could sell well today.
 

Toku Prime

Well-Known Member
Kuuga did just fine with a solo rider and is the reason why we had Rider shows yearly for the past decade. I think another solo rider show could sell well today.
I'd say it was really more Agito that set up the rest of the modern franchise. Kuuga could have been (and was originally intended to be) a successful one-off. Besides, Bandai wouldn't approve of a toy-less solo Rider, and they pay for the show to be made so without them you don't have a series at all.
 
Kuuga did just fine with a solo rider and is the reason why we had Rider shows yearly for the past decade. I think another solo rider show could sell well today.

Yeah that would be nice especially on the anniversary season so it can pay homage to both showa and the heisei eras

I'd say it was really more Agito that set up the rest of the modern franchise. Kuuga could have been (and was originally intended to be) a successful one-off. Besides, Bandai wouldn't approve of a toy-less solo Rider, and they pay for the show to be made so without them you don't have a series at all.

That is a problem and considered as a disadvantage.
 
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