Shinkenger's Outcome - Blame it on the Mecha?

[musashi03]

Shinkenger really wasn't one of the best shows in terms of justifying why the monsters grow huge. I noticed in some episodes they just kinda ignored the 2nd life thing if they didn't feel like doing a mecha fight.

Yeah, the only scene that made a little sense of having a second life was when Shitari gave half of his life the the Ayakashi of the week. It was an awesome third life for the Ayakashi being Shitari's second life, but it was defeated a little bit too easily for a Gedoushu officer (strategist).

 

[2shinken]

Yeah, the only scene that made a little sense of having a second life was when Shitari gave half of his life the the Ayakashi of the week. It was an awesome third life for the Ayakashi being Shitari's second life, but it was defeated a little bit too easily for a Gedoushu officer (strategist).

Personally I find the each Gedoushuu having 2 lives is one of the best explanation for the monsters to grow giant:-? The only two that didn't have a 2nd life is Juuzou and Tayuu, both of them are not born a Gedou.

But yeah, Shitari's 2nd life is kind of easy to defeat. However, he is a strategist who admits that his power is not enough to confront Akumaro so the easy fight is not totally nonsense anyway. Besides, the focus of the ep is on Takeru vs. Juuzou so it can't afford to spend so much time on the mecha fight.

 

[musashi03]

Personally I find the each Gedoushuu having 2 lives is one of the best explanation for the monsters to grow giant:-? The only two that didn't have a 2nd life is Juuzou and Tayuu, both of them are not born a Gedou.

But yeah, Shitari's 2nd life is kind of easy to defeat. However, he is a strategist who admits that his power is not enough to confront Akumaro so the easy fight is not totally nonsense anyway. Besides, the focus of the ep is on Takeru vs. Juuzou so it can't afford to spend so much time on the mecha fight.

But the mecha fight could have span on to the next episode to show that Shitari's second life which was the third life of the Ayakashi of the week was strong. IIRC, Magirangers successfully did this, yet people took them for granted.

The having 2 lives thing is the most pin-point explanation to kaijins turning into giants when defeated in their normal bodies, but it just raises a lot of other questions, why do they have 2 lives in the first place? Why is the second life a giant? Why can't they just started out as giants and turn small after the first life was defeated? I mean its kinda like saying a + b = c without explaining that 1 = a, 2 = b, and 3 = c. Get what I mean? For me, the best execution of kaijins turning into giants was with Deka, though the giant form is often a mecha or a different kaijin all together.

 

[NeonZ]

If you guys want the writers to make some sort of plan for every mecha debut in a series especially when it's 10+ mecha then you are all dreaming.

This isn't the olden days when there were 5-7 mecha a series and they all had a storyline attached to them.

Boukenger, Gekiranger and even Go-onger all had a large number of mechas and good introductions for them.

 

[Jacky392000]

Boukenger, Gekiranger and even Go-onger all had a large number of mechas and good introductions for them.

come to think of it, I agree. I remember I downloaded the latest Shinkenger eps and saving them for later.
I never read any ep summaries for those weeks and when I got down to watching them, the constant bombarding of Origami's in all the eps just bore the daylights outta me.

 

[zogu]

Shinkenger really wasn't one of the best shows in terms of justifying why the monsters grow huge. I noticed in some episodes they just kinda ignored the 2nd life thing if they didn't feel like doing a mecha fight.

Actually there wasn't any episode which ignored the 2nd life. There is a mecha fight in every episode from 1 to 49, either fighting the motw or/and the Oonanashi.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

Boukenger, Gekiranger and even Go-onger all had a large number of mechas and good introductions for them.

That didn't stop them from looking absolutely terrible and the mecha fights being uninteresting, for Go-Onger.

Actually there wasn't any episode which ignored the 2nd life. There is a mecha fight in every episode from 1 to 49, either fighting the motw or/and the Oonanashi.

Yeah, but see if they fought the Oonanashi, but not the MotW, they forgot the 2nd Life. But I don't recall that happening.

Also, this series mecha did hurt, but only because they were so terrible looking. Like Go-Onger. 13 mecha isn't so bad, but when they look as goofy as Tora Origami or Kaijiki Origami....

I miss DekaWing Robo.

 

[NeonZ]

That didn't stop them from looking absolutely terrible and the mecha fights being uninteresting, for Go-Onger.

Go-onger had a few good mecha battles near the ending of the series, with the smaller robots swapping arms around and even separating and recombining to dodge attacks, or the G12 becoming a giant flame bird for the final battle, but I agree that overall the battles were stiff, especially with the G9 and G12.

 

[Black Fang]

Mecha battles have been mediocre since the mid-90s.

The mecha weren't the sole problem with Shinken, but they did play a large factor. I still don't get why none of the Origamis after the first five lacked any "origami" abilities. Talk about misnomers.

^ What also gets boring every fucking year is people acting as though nobody should ever have a critical thought about this stuff at all. We should just be so gosh darn glad there is Sentai or Kamen Rider wether the creators do a good job or not. Just buy whatever shinny thing Bandai shoves in our faces.

Believe me I understand getting tired of negativity or people acting as though the shows are made for american adults rather than Japanese. ..but at the same time there's just as much room on this forum for people who love and are invested in this material to discuss what they do not like about the current creative direction of this stuff as there is for people to go "OMGmostbadassepicever!:buttrock:" about it.

Thank you.

 

[Kivat]

Mecha battles have been mediocre since the mid-90s.

The mecha weren't the sole problem with Shinken, but they did play a large factor. I still don't get why none of the Origamis after the first five lacked any "origami" abilities. Talk about misnomers.

It blows my mind too, and the aux came really quick, so I didn't get why they would just introduce the core 5, then already forget the gimmick a few episodes later. :eyebrow: I don't get why they stopped.

Only reason I could come up with is that, they just had a sudden flow of great ideas, but once they realized it didn't involve the origami gimmick, it was to late, so they said F it.