Selling your iPad, etc., illegal in U.S. soon?

[Loghorn]

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LMAO. If this is true, then this country is becoming even more of a joke than it already is. Ever since Obama along with the wrong people in congress got elected, etc., things have been getting more & more worse for this country. NDAA, CISPA, this garbage, etc. It goes on & on. It's getting to the point where I am ashamed to be an American.

Should I even think about moving to another country?

 

[toranoko]

I'm pretty sure companies being greedy has been going on long before Obama became President. :sly: Probably since like... forever.

Both the District and Second Circuit courts held that any product manufactured abroad is not subject to the first-sale doctrine. For instance, that iPad you sold. You noticed this statement: "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China." Same for the iPods you've owned, the iPhones, and the MacBooks. Because those products were manufactured abroad, according to the Second Circuit, the first-sale doctrine doesn't apply to them. You need the permission of every copyright holder to sell the iPad.

So selling used goods is OK if the product was made in the US. But might not be otherwise.

I like this. Companies move jobs overseas for cheaper labor, so they can make more money bring us great prices, all while making it illegal for consumers to resell a product they own. Niiice.

Considering US companies are able to do business globally and we as consumers can buy stuff from all over the world, it'd make sense that the first-sale doctrine would apply. Unless I was a big corporation that wanted every penny out of every possible consumer alive and not yet born.

 

[Judge Faiz]

Link 1.

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LMAO. If this is true, then this country is becoming even more of a joke than it already is. Ever since Obama along with the wrong people in congress got elected, etc., things have been getting more & more worse for this country. NDAA, CISPA, this garbage, etc. It goes on & on. It's getting to the point where I am ashamed to be an American.

Should I even think about moving to another country?

Yes...if you're THAT ashamed to be an American & think the country is that much of a joke, by all means move. Move to another country that doesn't have the same freedoms as you do. Freedoms that you've taken for granted every day of your life. Move to a country where you don't have ample opportunity to do what you want in life. Move to a country where you can't say your political views in a public forum.

But you and I both know that you have no intention of moving out of the US because of who is in office, or if for some insane reason this happens.

Obama has little to nothing to do with this case. He didn't make this part of the copyright law up. The part of the copyright law that is up for interpretation has been on the books since 1908. Before Obama or anyone in Congress for that matter was born. It's not even the lawmakers that are trying to make it "illegal" to sell something you own, it's some corporations using legal loopholes so they can make more money. It's up to the Supreme Court to decide on the issue and make a ruling.

Now I guess it's easier to do nothing and sit on your ass and state anonymously on the internet about the situation and be all up in arms...making decrees that the current government is a joke and how you are ashamed & want to leave the country, than actually doing something about it.

Don't like the policy? Fucking DO something about it. Write your Congressman, get your friends to write their Congressman. Bring the issue to the attention to the people via social media...without the personal governmental commentary and melodrama of wanting to move.

 

[KingRanger]

Ever since Obama along with the wrong people in congress got elected

If you want to make a point, try not to say stupid crap like this with it. Wow.. Just wow..:redface2:

 

[Loghorn]

If you want to make a point, try not to say stupid crap like this with it. Wow.. Just wow..:redface2:

It's the truth. Before 2009, there were no BS bills like CISPA, NDAA, etc. that affected our constitutional rights (at least, not very severe ones).

You'll see what I'm trying to say going by this link alone:

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[Judge Faiz]

It's the truth. Before 2009, there were no BS bills like CISPA, NDAA, etc. that affected our constitutional rights (at least, not very severe ones).

You'll see what I'm trying to say going by this link alone:

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Yeah...and I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that in 2009, social media wasn't as big and far reaching as it is today. I'm sure there were programs like CISPA & NDAA were trying to be passed into law, but probably wasn't well known because of the lack of awareness through social media.

Also...I wouldn't really trust a site who's source in their article is...the same article on a different website...with no sources of it's own. :eyebrow:

Again, bring the issue to the attention of people...but without your own political commentary & melodrama.

 

[ParaParaJMo]

this is the result of corporatism, not capitalism.

whatever happened to free markets? and wasnt it steve jobs who once said that capitalism is making luxuries into everyday necessities?

i dont blame obama but if people like ron paul were president, we wouldnt have **** like this.

 

[LaZerwolfX]

It's the truth. Before 2009, there were no BS bills like CISPA, NDAA, etc. that affected our constitutional rights (at least, not very severe ones).

You'll see what I'm trying to say going by this link alone:

Link.

holy **** dude, just stop. obama has nothing to do with this directly, i mean seriously the guy really doesn't have as much power or control as you seem to think he does.
i honestly just pity the guy now, sure he's not gonna make the list of top 10 best presidents, but people like you are so eager to just throw every ounce of blame on him even for stuff that he doesn't even have direct control over. just because he's not the black jesus of economics people want him to be, does not mean that every stupid thing that goes on in washington is his fault.

 

[Tom Constantine]

Why do Americans blame everything on their president?

I got a speeding ticket, damn that Obama!

 

[ParaParaJMo]

Yes...if you're THAT ashamed to be an American & think the country is that much of a joke, by all means move. Move to another country that doesn't have the same freedoms as you do. Freedoms that you've taken for granted every day of your life. Move to a country where you don't have ample opportunity to do what you want in life. Move to a country where you can't say your political views in a public forum.

But you and I both know that you have no intention of moving out of the US because of who is in office, or if for some insane reason this happens.

Obama has little to nothing to do with this case. He didn't make this part of the copyright law up. The part of the copyright law that is up for interpretation has been on the books since 1908. Before Obama or anyone in Congress for that matter was born. It's not even the lawmakers that are trying to make it "illegal" to sell something you own, it's some corporations using legal loopholes so they can make more money. It's up to the Supreme Court to decide on the issue and make a ruling.

Now I guess it's easier to do nothing and sit on your ass and state anonymously on the internet about the situation and be all up in arms...making decrees that the current government is a joke and how you are ashamed & want to leave the country, than actually doing something about it.

Don't like the policy? Fucking DO something about it. Write your Congressman, get your friends to write their Congressman. Bring the issue to the attention to the people via social media...without the personal governmental commentary and melodrama of wanting to move.

well, im not fond of obama, and im not fond of the republicans either....but they are yes and no the reason why i left the us and moved to japan where there is a new prime minister every fucking year and nothing changes....

ill truthfully admit i left america because as a japanese and east asian studies major, there is really nothing i could do for employment back home but what better place for me than japan? but i do miss my home country a whole lot, but at this point, i see myself staying in japan for a very long time and it is not because of obama, romney, or these stupid ass copyright laws (japan is anal about that **** too). but despite natural disasters, im glad i live in one of the most safest countries in the world. american aint perfect, and neither is japan.

but back on topic. once a person buys something, they have the right to do whatever they want with it and whatever happens they should be responsible.

if apple wants to be that way with their products, maybe they should be accountable for whoever films a child porn video with their products. or maybe if someone robs a bank and runs off in a ford escalade, maybe ford should be responsible and own up to it. if i shoot some stupid ass with a remington rifle, then remington should be responsible for it. maybe the clothing line that made trayvon martins hood should be responsible as well. if i beat up some punk ass on the street while wearing a jesus didnt tap shirt and mma trunks, then jason frank should be the one responsible. based on what apple wants to do, this is the way i see it.

yes, companies make things for the consumer, but once someone buys something, they should be the one responsible. once they leave the factory, it should no longer be theirs. i want governments and companies to let ME be responsible for what i buy with my own money and what i fucking do with it.