Rewatching Kamen Rider Faiz

[big_j_ny]

As do the rest of us anti-H-K Subs fans.

Co-sign.....but sadly, I have to deal with these subs for now in order to finish watching the Kamen Rider Kuuga series. I can't wait that long to wait for another legit fansub group finish the Kuuga series, so I'm gonna have to bare with it for now

 

[wavehawk]

Faiz is one of my fave Heisei series, but it (and Kabuto, my other fave) pale in comparison to Agito if story were the argument. I guess that initially (i.e. before Accel and Blaster forms), Faiz Gear seemed to be a little more plausible tech-wise than other Armor-based Heisei Riders (excepting the G3 series). I'd say that it's the Heisei series with the most firm grounding in Sci-Fi (at the start), but I could be wrong.

 

[psychonerv]

Co-sign.....but sadly, I have to deal with these subs for now in order to finish watching the Kamen Rider Kuuga series. I can't wait that long to wait for another legit fansub group finish the Kuuga series, so I'm gonna have to bare with it for now

count me in as well, i've been watching the hk-subbed kuuga and its really a pain, what's more is that the grongi have no subtitles when they are talking so pretty much, you're left to wonder what were they talking about.

Faiz is one of my fave Heisei series, but it (and Kabuto, my other fave) pale in comparison to Agito if story were the argument. I guess that initially (i.e. before Accel and Blaster forms), Faiz Gear seemed to be a little more plausible tech-wise than other Armor-based Heisei Riders (excepting the G3 series). I'd say that it's the Heisei series with the most firm grounding in Sci-Fi (at the start), but I could be wrong.

true, first it's really practical, along with the gadgetry faiz has that has dual purpose. but then again, some of the technology isn't really available with the current technology we have (ex. photon blood) though it's not really impossible to make this kind of technology, but right now, it's not feasible to make it.

 

[junkseed]

What about Kaido? Yuka actually played a part in conveying some tragedy and sadness in the storyline. She shows the viewer a side of Orphnochs that isn't black and white. She showed Takumi that too- that not all Orphnochs want genocide or are evil. Plus, she was significant eye candy! Kaido on the other hand, other than some comedy relief, did next to nothing. He started off as an Orphnoch willing to abuse his powers and take on the riders, but ends up utterly useless at the end. Apart from worrying about who might be the most goddamn evil child ever!

I don't know I thought Yuka was pretty black. The sadness she brought was pretty cheap other than her introduction she really doesn't do much until the end where they finally remembered she had a thing for Keitarou, another useless character, and brought them together just to kill her.

Kaido was definitely useless more so than Yuka but I think he was mentally challenged.

 

[Tendou Walking In Heaven]

I don't know I thought Yuka was pretty black. The sadness she brought was pretty cheap other than her introduction she really doesn't do much until the end where they finally remembered she had a thing for Keitarou, another useless character, and brought them together just to kill her.

Kaido was definitely useless more so than Yuka but I think he was mentally challenged.

I can't argue there about Keitarou. He was useless as hell. He had this notion of making people happy with his clean washing or something along those nonsensical lines. He should have at least become Delta- but they gave that role to Mihara, who just waltzed into the show as a coward from nearly out of nowhere. At least in Paradise Lost he did something.

 

[MattComix]

Sometimes I really have to wonder if the original plan..when and if there ever was a plan, at some point was to basically show how Yuji, Yuka, and Kaido became Orphenoch and then we'd follow them being inducted into Smart Brain, being "trained" in killing humans and that *they* would be new members of Lucky Clover. Only to have one or maybe all of them turn on Smart Brain later.

 

[Tendou Walking In Heaven]

In my opinion, the purposes of Kiba and Yuka were only implemented at the beginning and near the end. Kiba starts off as a chaotic-good kind of Orphnoch who represents the side of Orphnochs that isn't all dark and evil. Yuka brought something tragic to the series that was bound to tug the heartstrings. Yuka's existence towards the 40s episodes meant that humanity could play a larger role in the story- that humans too are just as antagonistic as the Orphnochs which to me, blurs the boundary between good and evil. This imagery is what I liked about Faiz. But Kiba and Yuka were practically useless elsewhere in the series. Kaido.............how the hell was he "sired"? Thank God he went on to become the famous Gedoushu JUUZO!!!

 

[junkseed]

I don't see how Yuka brings something tragic when it seemed everyone in the series had something tragic to bring.

 

[Tendou Walking In Heaven]

I don't see how Yuka brings something tragic when it seemed everyone in the series had something tragic to bring.

By "tragic", I mean that Yuka's human life invokes sympathy from the viewer. When she dies and becomes an Orphnoch, it somewhat makes everything utterly chaotic for her. Occasionally she snaps and kills people despite how she doesn't want to. Then she is attacked by humans later on. Before that, Kaido has never really cared for her when she liked him. To Yuka, hardly anyone doesn't hate or accept her, bar a few such as Keitarou and Kiba. Throughout her life (& death) she had been mostly unhappy. Her final wish was to see a world with no fighting- and tragically and ironically, she does die and presumably go to such a world.

I wouldn't say that everyone brings tragedy. Kusaka's death was no tragedy except for Mari. To many, his death was welcomed. Yes, Mari was "killed", but she came back. The Ryusei members mostly died out, but a few were a**holes anyway. Kaido brought only some comic relief. Keitarou's relationship with Yuka is what makes his part remotely "tragic" at all. Sawada was no real loss. Takumi lives happily ever after (presumably)..............the only character who actually brought some real tragedy too is Kiba. He loses his loved ones by death and betrayal. He later betrays humanity too by accepting his role as an Orphnoch and ultimately dies at the end having redeemed himself.

 

[junkseed]

By "tragic", I mean that Yuka's human life invokes sympathy from the viewer. When she dies and becomes an Orphnoch, it somewhat makes everything utterly chaotic for her. Occasionally she snaps and kills people despite how she doesn't want to. Then she is attacked by humans later on. Before that, Kaido has never really cared for her when she liked him. To Yuka, hardly anyone doesn't hate or accept her, bar a few such as Keitarou and Kiba. Throughout her life (& death) she had been mostly unhappy. Her final wish was to see a world with no fighting- and tragically and ironically, she does die and presumably go to such a world.

I wouldn't say that everyone brings tragedy. Kusaka's death was no tragedy except for Mari. To many, his death was welcomed. Yes, Mari was "killed", but she came back. The Ryusei members mostly died out, but a few were a**holes anyway. Kaido brought only some comic relief. Keitarou's relationship with Yuka is what makes his part remotely "tragic" at all. Sawada was no real loss. Takumi lives happily ever after (presumably)..............the only character who actually brought some real tragedy too is Kiba. He loses his loved ones by death and betrayal. He later betrays humanity too by accepting his role as an Orphnoch and ultimately dies at the end having redeemed himself.

I thought you meant tragedy as in the backstory of the character. For Yuka her death is the only thing "tragic" but a lot of people die so whatever, they only tried to make it more sympathetic by making her hook up with Keitarou, it was a cheap move. The Kaido thing is stupid, she should taken a hint and moved on, I don't see any tragedy in someone who just wouldn't let him go especially when she had Keitarou there.