Non-rider should of been a rider

[aniking_8]

Back is showa years Kamen rider are consider riders when they call themselves that and they're fighting to protect others, but heisei era evil riders become riders too because there the whole mask rider system and other supernatural reasons.

 

[NeonZ]

Some magazine scans called Shadowmoon an "evil Rider", so he's a Rider now, at least.

Alternative is called "Kamen Rider Alternative" in tv asahi's Decade site, in the section about the Nega World.

 

[Hidden Masta]

Some magazine scans called Shadowmoon an "evil Rider", so he's a Rider now, at least.

Alternative is called "Kamen Rider Alternative" in tv asahi's Decade site, in the section about the Nega World.

Yeah Decade made everyone a Rider so it could ebd confusion. Riotroopers can't be summoned by Diend unless there Kamen Riders. Nega-World was full of evil Riders not just random badies other wise they would of picked another evil Rider. I'm pretty sure will find out what Shadowmoon is in the movie.

As for Tackle I heard there's something about her in the internet episode coming out for Decade's movie so who know's...but for now. **** sake people Stronger said it himself, she's not a Rider and nobody cares what you think....we care about what Stronger thinks....

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

**** sake people Stronger said it himself, she's not a Rider and nobody cares what you think....we care about what Stronger thinks....

I don't care about what Stronger thinks, he's too full of himself! He just didn't want anyone to possibly be superior, which is why he always swooped in to deal with any of the grunts Tackle was fighting. Sexist, arrogant bastard.

 

[Red Sky Ranger]

GanGanG should've been a Rider.

 

[Igadevil]

That oh-so-controversial Spirits line about Tackle is a nice idea, but it only really works in the context of the story and how "Kamen Rider" is viewed in the older series. Stronger's saying that in death, she is once more a normal woman- because guess what? In the old universe, being a Kamen Rider sucks! Notice that in this scene he explicitly refers to her as Yuriko, rather than her alter ego.

Go beyond just Spirits though, and it just doesn't really hold together well, because the connotation of Kamen Rider has changed. You can't tell me Tackle is any less deserving of being a Rider than some asshole like Gai or Arc. Hell, go backwards and you wonder why V3 had the balls to call Riderman "Kamen Rider #4" and Stronger didn't think to call her #8, but I think that's got more to do with V3 having already bought the X-Rider record and seeing Riderman's song on there, so he knew he'd come back and he just swiped it off of there anyway.

What's more, don't forget we're talking about comics here, and if you're going to give weight to a couple lines from Spirits, then how about the Stronger-era comic where Tackle joins the other 7 Riders as... wait for it... the 8th Rider! Yeah. I love Spirits at much as the next guy, but it's still a comic. A really, really, really good comic, but remember TV never addressed the issue, which is why it's been such a sore point for years.

I give Muraeda credit for trying to rationalize the Tackle thing, but it's still a retroactive way of trying to explain what is pretty much a glaring oversight because, as Shougo has said before, Kamen Rider is by and large still a boys' club.



...until the day I write for it! :evil3:

 

[Tanuki]

Though Tackle kind of needs a redesign

 

[Hidden Masta]

Though Tackle kind of needs a redesign

Is that a polite way of saying bigger boobs? Shame on you!

If she is a Rider than why isn't she in the movie. Even if she wasen't a main Rider neither was Riderman and alot of dead Riders have been in Decade(Punchhopper, Kaixa, Ouja).

 

[Igadevil]

Is that a polite way of saying bigger boobs? Shame on you!

If she is a Rider than why isn't she in the movie. Even if she wasen't a main Rider neither was Riderman and alot of dead Riders have been in Decade(Punchhopper, Kaixa, Ouja).

Like I said, I think it's an oversight on Toei's part. People can come up with a million conspiracy theories, but I think it's really just that- they've fucked up for 30 years and never bothered to fix it. The fact that they can joke about it (with the net movie) kinda tells me that maybe attitudes are finally changing. Like "Yes, we have been kind of stupid about this, haven't we?" Almost any guidebook in recent years that covers the classic Riders includes Tackle, and I mean gives her the full profile. Hyper Hobby did 3-part poster with every single Rider & form back in 2006, and Tackle's on there while a bunch of those Oni & the fake Riders got screwed (though not the Alternatives!) She's in the Official Data Files under "Kamen Rider", rather than just an ally like Tachibana, etc.

It's like Another Agito- she's a Rider in every thing but actual name. She's got her own title (Electro-wave Human) but I never saw that as being much more than a moniker. Speaking of AA, he's almost in the same boat, though he's gotten treated a bit better. But has he been in Decade yet?

Oh, and I like the design, though I think it works best on print (comics Tackle's always been pretty good.) She looks awesome in Spirits.

 

[aniking_8]

Apollo Geist seem sort of have some rider characteristics too