Kamen Rider OOO - Talk Up!

[Oblivion]

W was able to manage both quite well. He even had more stunt bike action than CGI.

Of course, it wasn't until Quetzalcoatlus that the CGI got actually decent but you know what I mean.

Well yeah, but what I do really wish to see is like the bike stunts like Kuuga had during the 30s episodes where he fought Badaa(the badass grasshopper grongi, on a bike. With a scarf. ). I am pretty happy that Double gave us stunt actions with bikes though.

 

[ClimaxHeroDen-O]

I was only talking about Den-O the Rider, not Zeronos. Zeronos's forms I did like more or less. But the Sword-Rod-Axe-Gun fold-in-and-out format made no sense in the context of the story. You'd have to have known that Ryo would bond with Momo, Ura, Kin, and Ryuta in that order to make that belt. And why would new train cars come along simply because a Taro joined the crew? Why does the engine resemble Sword Form's visor at all? And I don't by the "came from the future" explanation because there really was nothing in the show that corroborated that. Den-O is just an example of what happens when the toys spend more time on gimmicks and don't go along with the story's logic.

Plus aesthetically it's just ugly. Sword Form's front as Rod Form's and Axe Form's back? Axe Form's front as Sword Form's and Gun Form's back? Terrible!

You're just overthinking things. The show never tried to explain that, so overanalyzing it like this doesn't help. This is one of things you should just leave your brain at the door about, elsewise you ruin things

As for the aesthetic thing, opinion =/= fact, nor does you opinion even equal the general opinion.

 

[Hell Kaiser Andy]

Pulling **** from the arse while common for Heisei Riders usually had some sort of explanation no matter how lame it were.

Masked Rider System - Kabuto (Developed by Natives)
Kivat (A race that served the Fangaia.
DecaDriver (I believe it's creation was mentioned in one of Decade's movies)
Blade Rider System (Created to battle the re-released undeads)
Orphenoc Belts (Created to protect the Orphenoc King)
Seed of Agito (Overlord of Lights power spread)
Arcle Belt (Used by ancient warriors)
W Driver (Extra resistance to Gaia Memory corruption)
Advent Decks (Used to capture Mirror Monsters and be able to participate in the Rider Battle)
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Den-O Belt - Nothing at all
Oni transformation items.

 

[Black Fang]

You're just overthinking things. The show never tried to explain that, so overanalyzing it like this doesn't help. This is one of things you should just leave your brain at the door about, elsewise you ruin things.

Am I overthinking things, or are you just not thinking enough? I'd say the poor choice of form usage is ruining things, not the fact that I'm thinking about how it all works.

As for the aesthetic thing, opinion =/= fact, nor does you opinion even equal the general opinion.[/COLOR]

..... What does this have to do with anything? Do you even have an actual rebuttal, or are you just annoyed that anyone said something bad toward the Den-O god?

 

[dchoc]

 

[thernz]

Well, I wouldn't call it a bad design for that, considering the designs are made before any writing is done. No need to hate the suit.
More like bad writing, I hate you~

 

[ClimaxHeroDen-O]

What does this have to do with anything? Do you even have an actual rebuttal, or are you just annoyed that anyone said something bad toward the Den-O god?

Actually, yeah, I do. what you call a design flaw I call a consequence of an ingenious system. The idea of a single set of armor that re-arranges itself was brilliant and and one of the most uique things about Den-O, along with the actual physical incorporation of the rails along the body into the suit mechanics(which got ramped up when Climax Form was introduced). Besides that, there was also the whole concept of the DenKamen, one of the rare ocasions that put the "Mask" in "Masked Rider"(which was the official series name back then)

also, as far as anyone knows, Ryotaro getting the Den-O Belt may have done something to him that effected how the coloration of his Imagin to fit the belt buttons, and each form's design may have been created once that Imagin united itself with Ryo, and after the new forms were created, so were new DenLiner cars

 

[Black Fang]

Actually, yeah, I do. what you call a design flaw I call a consequence of an ingenious system. The idea of a single set of armor that re-arranges itself was brilliant and and one of the most uique things about Den-O, along with the actual physical incorporation of the rails along the body into the suit mechanics(which got ramped up when Climax Form was introduced). Besides that, there was also the whole concept of the DenKamen, one of the rare ocasions that put the "Mask" in "Masked Rider"(which was the official series name back then)

Well I never said that that itself was a bad idea. I said it made no sense in the context of the story. Understand the difference.

also, as far as anyone knows, Ryotaro getting the Den-O Belt may have done something to him that effected how the coloration of his Imagin to fit the belt buttons, and each form's design may have been created once that Imagin united itself with Ryo, and after the new forms were created, so were new DenLiner cars

Except the belt colors and forms were already built in before Ryo bonded with any of the Taros.

And the cars were completely pointless, what with how they just appeared out of nowhere at random instances. Heck, the whole idea of the giant monster battles in Den-O were dumb and just seemed like a cheap way to sell Denliner.

 

[Darkster]

I would rather have more stunt bike actions instead of more CGI thank you.

Agreed. I like CGI finishers, but overuse of CGI can always be replaced by a good stunt that looks great.

Pulling **** from the arse while common for Heisei Riders usually had some sort of explanation no matter how lame it were.

Masked Rider System - Kabuto (Developed by Natives)
Kivat (A race that served the Fangaia.
DecaDriver (I believe it's creation was mentioned in one of Decade's movies)
Blade Rider System (Created to battle the re-released undeads)
Orphenoc Belts (Created to protect the Orphenoc King)
Seed of Agito (Overlord of Lights power spread)
Arcle Belt (Used by ancient warriors)
W Driver (Extra resistance to Gaia Memory corruption)
Advent Decks (Used to capture Mirror Monsters and be able to participate in the Rider Battle)
---
Den-O Belt - Nothing at all
Oni transformation items.

DoubleDriver was made more for using the power of Raito to reach a higher level and rule the world.
Advent Decks were made to be used to kill each other Rider and generate whatever it was to be used to grant Kanzaki's wish.
Orphenoc belts weren't pulled from nowhere. They really were to be only used by Orphenochs to protect and aid the Orphenoch King.
The Masked Rider System was maybe pulled out halfway through the writing since that idea doesn't look very developed.
For Decade, we all know that one was pulled from nowhere. :redface2:

 

[Ryuutaros]

I'm guessing the Greed's missing body parts are related to the Core Medals OOO has?

Insect Greed is missing legs - Grasshopper legs Core Medal