Kamen Rider Gaim Ep 45 - "The Final Battle of the Two Destined People!"

[Eldar]

They were weak compared to Helheim.

 

[bleachjoj]

Her entire character arc revolving around Kaito and her interest in the one she believe can claim the fruit. Regardless of your opinions of how it was resolved (i thought it was resolved poorly). It beats what they had in Wizard.

No it wasn't. Yoko's arc was a total, we actually saw Mayu's growth. With Yoko there is none.

 

[HurricaneDragon]

Her entire character arc revolving around Kaito and her interest in the one she believe can claim the fruit. Regardless of your opinions of how it was resolved (i thought it was resolved poorly). It beats what they had in Wizard.

Right, so exactly as I said, she had nothing significant that was "her."

Mayu is leagues ahead of her.

 

[billySEEDDecade]

I don't know if this is the official motivation, but Yoko's actress tweet that Yoko's reason in helping Kaito is because of love. She also said that Yoko died happily in the arm of the first person she have fallen in love with.

Source : https://twitter.com/minami373minami/status/510938641053413376

 

[NeonZ]

There is a flaw in Kaito's logic. When he was talking about how as people get stronger, they lose compassion, he was thinking about Yggdrasil, but he considers Yggdrasil weak.

I think Kaito's speeches in this last episode were written in a rather odd way. He obviously values personal power, but dislikes the power of faceless entities like corporations. Yet, in this episode, in different scenes he expressed his opposite views about the two kinds of power, while using the same terms for both of them and without directly comparing them to each other.

In his speech to Mai, he talks about personal strength and weakness, and making a world for the strong. Meanwhile, when he gives his speech to Kouta, he talks and criticizes the powerful collective, like Yggdrazil. However, he talks about both of them in different scenes just using the same terms about power and strength, even though they aren't really the same, and also never contrasts both uses of the terms directly.

Malika didn't even really support most of them. I can't think of anything significant she ever did that was truly "her." Malika's role as "support" is more akin to putting a plank underneath a perfectly stable table. Yes, the plank will technically be more supported, but it'll be fine without it there too.

Well, Kaito got a Genesis Driver and was allowed to continue working alongside Ryoma's group due to her, since Ryoma had lost interest in him after his defeat to Demushu. She also saved Kaito's life there. Earlier on, she was pushing Micchy towards dirtying his hands. In the overlord arc she accomplishes very little, but that's just due to her being a supporting player to Kaito, who also fails to accomplish anything relevant there and was mostly support himself.

Mayu, meanwhile, may not have transformed much, but she was still fairly important comparatively to the story.

Mayu failed in her quest, failed to help the villain, due to Wizard recovering Infinity when it was necessary, and failed to redeem herself in the end due to being too weak. It's not only the lack of transformations. She has very little value to Wizard's narrative. Ending the series alive doesn't suddenly mean that she was a well handled character.

 

[Eldar]

No it wasn't. Yoko's arc was a total, we actually saw Mayu's growth. With Yoko there is none.

Did you even watch Gaim? Her attitudes and relations towards Kaito and Ryouma changes completely from when she first meets Kaito in 15 (under antagonistic circumstances) as Ryouma's flunky to believing he has potential in 26 and asking for Ryouma to giving him another chance then to 33 where she believes that Kaito will be the one to achieve the Fruit of Knowledge to 42 where she pretty much becomes his loyal follower.

 

[Toku Prime]

There is a flaw in Kaito's logic. When he was talking about how as people get stronger, they lose compassion, he was thinking about Yggdrasil, but he considers Yggdrasil weak.

I didn't get that impression watching the show, but even so Yggdrasil are the organisation that destroyed everything he held dear as a child and there was nothing he could do about it. No matter what the current reality is, they'll always be his boogyman.

 

[Tendou Soujiro]

I didn't get that impression watching the show, but even so Yggdrasil are the organisation that destroyed everything he held dear as a child and there was nothing he could do about it. No matter what the current reality is, they'll always be his boogyman.

This is a really good way of putting it especially after learning about his background in the Real Rider side story.

 

[Galaxian]

Despite everything that went down on this episode, my favorite scene is actually when Kouta eats the helheim fruit. It is very emotional and I specially like how it brought back the "I want to transform" comment from the beginning.

 

[bleachjoj]

Did you even watch Gaim? Her attitudes and relations towards Kaito and Ryouma changes completely from when she first meets Kaito in 15 (under antagonistic circumstances) as Ryouma's flunky to believing he has potential in 26 and asking for Ryouma to giving him another chance then to 33 where she believes that Kaito will be the one to achieve the Fruit of Knowledge to 42 where she pretty much becomes his loyal follower.

That's not growth. That's just moving from one person to the next.