Japan's New Anti-Piracy Law Passed

[toranoko]

If ripping DVDs is illegal, what about CDs? They expect consumers to buy physical media and digital media? Or only buy digital media to put on their mp3 players?

Wait. I probably don't want to hear the answer to that.

 

[RaiDK]

If ripping DVDs is illegal, what about CDs? They expect consumers to buy physical media and digital media? Or only buy digital media to put on their mp3 players?

Wait. I probably don't want to hear the answer to that.

Yeah you really don't.

 

[Liquid Chris Sentai]

I'm honestly surprised a program has not been invented that could automatically translate a language into subtitles for you like closed captioning does on tv.

Then it would result in awful English. Have you use translators before? They don't translate Japanese to English that well. No, Toei is not going to be making a special closed caption for some group of nerds (no offense to the Toku fandom) in the west.

 

[Bolt]

Closed Captioning is not automatic. The text display is live, but the text itself is simply a transcript of the dialogue and/or key sounds contained in a program. Not to mention the fact that because of the contextual and highly reflexive exigencies of translingual communication it would be nearly impossible to invent a program that could instantly decode a foreign language in a way that was comprehensible to a non-speaking audience.

 

[Bigdog]

Then it would result in awful English. Have you use translators before? They don't translate Japanese to English that well. No, Toei is not going to be making a special closed caption for some group of nerds (no offense to the Toku fandom) in the west.

Maybe right now, but think about if they provided subs for the series which air like closed Captioning. IN the future I can see it being doable with the rise of Smart TVs, but it is going to take some time to perfect the technology. Granted, I'd love to watch some Spanish soaps on Univision and understand it.

Closed Captioning is not automatic. The text display is live, but the text itself is simply a transcript of the dialogue and/or key sounds contained in a program. Not to mention the fact that because of the contextual and highly reflexive exigencies of translingual communication it would be nearly impossible to invent a program that could instantly decode a foreign language in a way that was comprehensible to a non-speaking audience.

Nearly impossible now, but impossible? It's going to take a new system/ tech to make closed captioning translate effectively if they are gonig into that direction. IT will take awhile , and it will make foreign TV watchable for the public. But as long as there's little to no demand, this ain;t gonna happen yet.

 

[Bolt]

Nearly impossible now, but impossible? It's going to take a new system/ tech to make closed captioning translate effectively if they are gonig into that direction. IT will take awhile , and it will make foreign TV watchable for the public. But as long as there's little to no demand, this ain;t gonna happen yet.

I would argue impossible to create efficiently and without glaring flaws in translation being common, yes. Think about how reflexive and situational language is. Much of it doesn't follow rules of any kind except those imposed by its own grammatical and semantic constraints, and it really has little regard for things like logic as well. Consider the nature of devices such as idiom, colloquialism, figures of speech, puns, etc--they only make sense to us because we've familiarized ourselves with their idiosyncratic symbolism and subtextual meaning through decades and sometimes centuries of frequent use. Remember also how difficult it is to interpret sarcasm and other subtle tones through text; we encounter this every day on forums just like this one. There are so many complexities to language and especially inter/trans-linguistics that people don't realize, but they all contribute to our understanding of a language and translating is never a 1:1 correspondence.

It may be feasible to develop some sort of program that could do most of the legwork, to be filled in later by the viewer's own present, flexible mind, but it would likely only work with things like documentaries or news programs that present information in a concise, straightforward manner, and even then its debatable what degree of accuracy such a program could ever achieve without considerable input from a human element, which is the very nature of language.

 

[Black Ranger RX]

Heck, Toei even saved TV-Nihon from what I can recall since TV-Nihon weren't making a dang dime off of the subs they were making.

Is that acutally true? I always thought Toei never even remotely had any association with TV Nihon at all.

As for the Kamen Rider The First thing, I always thought TV Nihon took it down themselves, not by request of Toei.

And apart from that this is pretty shitty, considering the bloody high prices of DVDs in Japan, and not to mention even still to this day DVDs still have the same freezing and skipping problems that they had when they were first brought to the world.

 

[KingRanger]

Is that acutally true? I always thought Toei never even remotely had any association with TV Nihon at all.

As for the Kamen Rider The First thing, I always thought TV Nihon took it down themselves, not by request of Toei.

And apart from that this is pretty shitty, considering the bloody high prices of DVDs in Japan, and not to mention even still to this day DVDs still have the same freezing and skipping problems that they had when they were first brought to the world.

The guy you quoted has no idea what he was talking about.

 

[Hobo ODST]

Here's the article/had to go back to one of my videos to find the link: http://diaxiann.tumblr.com/post/17019380617/why-no-one-gives-a-****-about-you-pirating-toku-and

I suggest taking a look at that article, as it's a pretty good read.

That guy assumes far too much and treats it like fact.

 

[Zeltrax541]

That guy assumes far too much and treats it like fact.

Oh. OK then. Sorry about that, guys.

And from what I've read on the TV-Nihon forums isn't too comforting: http://forums.tvnihon.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11192

Plus, the ones from AnimeNewsNetwork isn't comforting either: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1082079&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I'm honestly scared for the future of the American Tokusatsu community. How are we gonna watch stuff like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai if this law goes into effect?