Japan Hero Era vs. HJU Era - Are Things Better or Worse?

Yeah, I mean it's a fucking kids show about guys in armour suits fighting monsters...are they really gonna expect a holliwood summer blockbuster style of writing, or story?

Some people in this fadom take these shows way too seriously sometimes.
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You totally missed my point. The people behind these shows do see them as works of art because it's something they spend a lot of time on. A lot goes into the production of these shows and the writers do their best to maintain a certain quality, they respect the shows they work on because they do pour a lot of themselves into them.

Also, a summer blockbuster style of writing would be nothing but action and explosions, various tokusatsu series have gone far beyond that.
 
Undrave:

TV productions wether nay-sayers would like to admit it or not are works of Art.

There are writers who write the storylines and brainstorm ideas, there are designers and artists who come up with the concepts to create the costumes etc.

The fact that such philosophical meanings are prominent within the writing just shows you that the writers have at least conducted an ambitious visionary implementation of their ideas.

Keith:

Good to see you again! I'll be looking forward to this experience on your forum.

Undrave wrote:

Beside, nowadays symbolism get thrown around for the sake of symbolism. Because it looks cool. Its the state of entertainment these days.

No, because if you look at the philosophical symbolism found in W and even the likes of Den-O you would say otherwise.

TV productions (the clever ones) usually target a main audience and then has an 'in group, in-joke' if you will of the more Esoteric and philosophical meanings in their shows.

Most Toku fans have no idea what the writers are cleverly trying to say in the concept of W's dual partners theme for example.

I can write a thesis on the concepts found in W's themes alone.

Though there's a difference between this and automatically thinking any deeper discussion is silly, which is a mindset I see becoming a lot more prevalent lately.

I agree, it's like a reflection of the greater society as whole, where people are literally proud of their ignorance.

You totally missed my point. The people behind these shows do see them as works of art because it's something they spend a lot of time on. A lot goes into the production of these shows and the writers do their best to maintain a certain quality, they respect the shows they work on because they do pour a lot of themselves into them.

Also, a summer blockbuster style of writing would be nothing but action and explosions, various tokusatsu series have gone far beyond that.

Exactly! I think Dark Kabuto has really proven my point found in my first post.
 
I won't claim to know how things were at Japan Hero, because I was never there, though I do know things are a little more relaxed here and most of the people here are much friendlier than at other Toku-based forums I've been to, where one wrong typo would result in a month-long ban.

I've been a mod/admin and member at other sites where there have been both really kind people and total douchebags (and I have quit because of the latter). But yeah, I do agree that any fandom has both its good and its bad within its ranks. However, I'd have to rank HJU as probably the best places I've ever spent time online, just solely based on how friendly most of its members are.
 
I think Shinobi Shaw is right, buuuuuut... I think he also woefully under values simple entertainment reaction.

What say you? I think if you don't have both, then you're seriously missing something without the other.
 
Lack of Balance

But I believe that the balance favors the fun over the intellectual.

I am all for wacky antics and fun, but where is the focus upon the deeper meanings?

I mean if we are reflecting the shows being produced then there should be an equal amount of serious discussion over the fun.

But then again, I think the intellectual and 'serious' discussions *are* fun.

So it's not the shows that are so much changing, it's rather the fandom itself that is.

And I have no problem with that, but it would be nice to see more balance.

Maybe in the end that is all (i.e. the 'serious' posters) are asking.

Interesting enough Comics (of all things) has actually been going in the completely opposite direction then Anime, Toku etc.
 
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Not sure why I didn't ask you over here soon-- oh... ooh yeah.. Jeff was still running the place back then and I didn't want to rip off his posters. But since I'm "running" both places aaaaaaand, Jeff has been thinking about closing the doors to Japan Hero.. I'd like it if you could bring the gang over here.

I LOVE the goofy fun we get up to, but HJU was definitely missing something by not having you guys around.
 
Most of the JH people are here already. Myself, Adrienzo, Shougo, Raida23 and now Shinobi. I think it's just people like Dr. Kain and jinscriba now that don't frequent this place.
 
Shinobi Shaw I arbitrarely declare you my nemesis! You're like my opposite, my Nega-Undrave...so yeah. Nemesis. Totally.

*glares**glares*

:laugh:

Welcome to HJU.

We disagree but I'm sure you'll add a different flavor to our smogasboard.:thumbs:
 
Good to bring in some spice.

Thank you.

I think I will.

But I am glad I am here, because I think I was too much in my Ivory Tower back at JH and here I get to read other people's perspectives.

Many of which have happy and positive things to say of certain Toku productions I have been quite harsh in the past with.
 
Like little ol' me?

-I loved Den-o, Go-onger and Cutie Honey The Live
-I dropped Kabuto, Kiva and Gekiranger
-I'm French Canadian

:laugh:

But I'm not really a confrontational kinda guy... defensive at times but... at some point I just get tired of the fighting so if you start bashing Go-onger I'll probably just sigh, shake my head and file you in the same group as Keith :p
 

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