Gunmen killed 14 at a Batman film showing

[Red Tyranno Ranger]

That's just one of the reasons why I like Japan more when it comes to things like this. I only wish that the U.S. would follow this example.



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Hats off to you, CB.

The reason why Japan is "safer" than America is because it's fucking tiny so of course it's crime rate's lower it has way less people in it to commit crimes.

 

[StriderXXX]

The reason why Japan is "safer" than America is because it's fucking tiny so of course it's crime rate's lower it has way less people in it to commit crimes.

every country = same **** different day

 

[kuroihikari]

The reason why Japan is "safer" than America is because it's fucking tiny so of course it's crime rate's lower it has way less people in it to commit crimes.

Oh, god. This is genius.

Do you know what a "rate" is? It's crime compared to the population. It doesn't matter how big your population is.

Take this for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

In 2011, there were 0.35 homicides per 100,000 population in Japan versus 4.7 per 100,000 population in the United States. That means for every 100,000 people, there are around 14 times more people killed in the United States versus in Japan. Note the part "per 100,000 population".

Now if you factor in the fact that Japan is a much denser country population-wise (i.e. people live more closely to one another in Japan than they do in the United States), then the USA doesn't even come close.

 

[Red Tyranno Ranger]

Oh, god. This is genius.

Do you know what a "rate" is? It's crime compared to the population. It doesn't matter how big your population is.

Take this for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

In 2011, there were 0.35 homicides per 100,000 population in Japan versus 4.7 per 100,000 population in the United States. That means for every 100,000 people, there are around 14 times more people killed in the United States versus in Japan. Note the part "per 100,000 population".

Now if you factor in the fact that Japan is a much denser country population-wise (i.e. people live more closely to one another in Japan than they do in the United States), then the USA doesn't even come close.

Hmph so I was wrong still doesn't change the fact that Japan is far from perfect.

Which is why I get very annoyed when I hear people here go on about how Japan is much better than the US despite never stepping foot in Japan thus having no actual knowledge of what it's like to live there.

 

[ParaParaJMo]

I live in Japan and I can tell you it is much safer. I can go on a train past midnight in Tokyo and see children by themselves and back when I lived in Arizona, there were child abductions in broad day light down the street from their homes. Yes, Japan has some crazy **** such as the bus incident in 2000, the Osaka elementary incident in 2001, and Sasebo Incident in 2004, but it is still much safer.

The American media tried to make what happened in Japan in March 2011 like it was fucking Mad Max, while it was bad, the outlook was very positive living here first hand and people were working together and reconstruction was very progressive in many areas.

 

[Bigdog]

The American media tried to make what happened in Japan in March 2011 like it was fucking Mad Max, while it was bad, the outlook was very positive living here first hand and people were working together and reconstruction was very progressive in many areas.

I view the crime rate comparison as Japan versus the states of the USA rather than the country itself unless you do some math and make Japan proportionate to America. Same thing with Europe as well.

If I may, I will do this. In a theoretical Japan with 383 million people, three times its population sans concerns, we would have three times crime and other statistics. Even then, we have a different culture and other factors to deal with.

And the media tends to do that alot, even though I knew otherwise it was funny to say the least.

I do agree that fighting is more about ferocity & calm of mind than anything- this was even made a point iof in the Batman films themselves on several occasions. All martial arts teach you is how to use what you have to the advantage. The first stage is learning all the moves, but not many people realize the second- learning when to do what moves to counteract what for X reason at X time. Until someone masters that, a martial art is practically useless in most any real dangerous situation.

I also think they should restrict gun use, not obliterate it. Prohibit anyone with any kind of criminal record from buying firearms & make a person take a psychological evaluation before obtaining a concealed weapon or hunting license. Also, revoke a license from anyone who allows an unlicensed person to use teir weapon. I really think that's the best you can do with it, though.

It should be harder for them to access guns but not illegal or banned, depending on the crime. Also, psych evals can be rigged and or the person can act out of it. You can't do really much but its a start.

I think we should make it illegal to buy ammo in bulk. The guy purchased 3000 bullets from two diffrent stores. They didn't find that a bit odd?

They should restrict it in some instances because that is ridiculous.

I say Christian Bale doing this out of the goodness of his heart and not representing Warner Bros or DC is a very awesome thing for him to do. I am glad he shows that he cares about his fans. That man is more than just an oscar winner, but a wonderful human being.

Yep. He is a remarkable guy.

I believe in some countries, like in Australia or New Zealand (according to Inside MMA as my source), that having a 3rd or 4th degree black belt in martial arts is considered a weapon. But watch the old UFCs and a guy with a black belt in TKD would probably lose to an amateur wrestler or maybe even a BJJ blue belt or a very high level BJJ white belt. But pure fighting and martial arts ain't all that flashy stuff you see in tokusatsu or Jet Li. Bruce Lee as a martial artist was all about biting, kicking dudes in the nut sack, scratching, and kicking a guy when he's down. Any Joe schmo can do that. Why does that have to be considered deadly when you get some black belt from a McDojo? Brazilian Jiujitsu is a very safe and soft martial art despite what the techniques are and is a hell of a lot of fun.

I agree. Most martial arts on the screen are so flashy that it blends in and gets tiring. It looks nice, but you know for a fact it hardly works in the real world, and that is why I like films such as Haywire . At least I know I am somewhat in page of martial arts (though I haven't taken in any) because my personal belief is you make sure the other person can't harm anymore or be a threat.

Despite my training, I have been in street fights in my youth and it has saved my life, but its not a guarnatee. Plus, some fights are not really worth fighting when you know you can walk away.

True. Most fights are not.

I do believe that we need to be careful who gets weapons. Switzerland is 4th in gun ownership and yet their crime rate is low. Utah has very relaxed gun control laws and they got a low crime rate (unless you count polygamy) Yes, America is fucking crazy, but putting our sensalationlist media aside and this incident, crime has actually been decreasing.

That is also true. We do need to be careful whom in the law abiding public gets the weapons, but see to it that people whom are capable and are sane to hold weapons and perhaps, be with those whom are disabled and protect them.

Well, I like to know if you have any training and if you do, how your training would have made any difference in Aurora incident. I may not have experience in war like my father, but whatever training I have tells me that what is done is done. Sometimes training involves knowing when NOT to fight and run for my life instead. How do you fight someone with an AR-15 in body armor and a gas mask and their is tear gas filling up the room and people are running all over like crazy? And keep in mind you may not be armed.

Haven't had training formally , but I agree it may not have stopped the killer anyways if I did. The issue that is with the system is that people do not arm themselves when they should and be prepared while also no knowing what to do in such a situation and such places not having safe enough areas in the very case of a shooting or natural disaster. Isn't the best thing to do is duck and remain still versus becoming a target, assuming he went for moving targets than not?

Its not because of promotion of martial arts, but its because it is a more group oriented society as opposed to valuing the individual like in western countries. Plus, in Japanese schools they have moral education classes and the educational system is more involved in the students daily lives.

You mean the educational system is more involved like how it was in America at some point in history? I do agree that being individually minded has ruined Western society because its now "me" and not "what about us?". I rarely knew anybody on my road aside of my two neighbors on both sides and the one behind me and one right down the road. Knew select people in town but in interaction? Barely.

Ron Paul '12atriotic:

But I do believe that we need to promote a more healthy society in which we can work together and also individual responsibility. I do agree that banning guns altogether isnt the ultimate solution. But it was a situation in which some guy did a wrong thing and nobody saw it coming. Like I said before, how is a guy who sells the guy to Holmes supposed to know if hes going to kill a bunch of people if his own loved ones didnt? Should their be mental evaluations as well? I do believe gun laws need to be stricter but of course that is easier said than done.

His mother said she was not surprised in the slightest some time back. I do agree that we should punish those on an individual rather than punish the community.

Yup, and after the earthquake and tsunamis, they stayed very calm and nobody was doing any looting and crime was still low. Its funny in the 1995 kobe earthquake, the yamaguchi gumi, the biggest crime syndicate in japan, acted faster in helping out than the Japanese government did LOL.

[/QUOTE] It was funny watching the news and how it sounded like a post-apocalyptic nightmare like Hokuto no Ken.

 

[kuroihikari]

I view the crime rate comparison as Japan versus the states of the USA rather than the country itself unless you do some math and make Japan proportionate to America. Same thing with Europe as well.

If I may, I will do this. In a theoretical Japan with 383 million people, three times its population sans concerns, we would have three times crime and other statistics. Even then, we have a different culture and other factors to deal with.

And the media tends to do that alot, even though I knew otherwise it was funny to say the least.

Did you read my post a couple of posts up? Crime rate is measured "per 100,000 population". Even if you multiply Japan's population by a thousand its crime rate will still be fourteen times lower than the United States because crime rate is already measured per 100,000 population.

It's nice to be patriotic and all, and other factors come into play as population increases, but please, don't be in denial by bringing up "But Japan is a small country". It's not like Japan is THAT small compared to the United States: It has ~130M people versus the US's ~320M, just nearly a third lower, and in a much smaller landmass.

 

[Bolt]

Most martial arts on the screen are so flashy that it blends in and gets tiring. It looks nice, but you know for a fact it hardly works in the real world, and that is why I like films such as Haywire.

And that was the day that Bolt decided to stop reading anything posted by Bigdog.

 

[Mr. Underachiever]

And that was the day that Bolt decided to stop reading anything posted by Bigdog.

THAT was the day??

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[Allio]

THAT was the day??

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