Godzilla (2014) Discussion

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Godzilla isn't usually evil, it's just pissed off to begin it. After all, he/she is a product of nuclear radiation due to human error in the past. Basically, Godzilla is sent by Mother Nature to destroy those who are responsible for his/her mutation and destroying his/her abode.

If anything hero, Gamera is more hero than Godzilla; so hero that Gamera has an obnoxious song which rivals Jet Jaguar's; but I digress. Mothra best described as a beautiful warrior maiden...hence goddess...even though she's still a stupid butterfly
 
If anything hero, Gamera is more hero than Godzilla; so hero that Gamera has an obnoxious song which rivals Jet Jaguar's; but I digress. Mothra best described as a beautiful warrior maiden...hence goddess...even though she's still a stupid butterfly

Meld the cut Gigamoth, GMK Mothra, Shodai Mothra and Mothra Leo [with all the powers] altogether and you got the most viable Mothra for this film franchise.
 
There's a legit reason why Godzilla's not good as of now. First of all, why you call a movie Godzilla when it's all about the humans? Plus, I hate offscreen fight scenes. Other than that, I can't wait to see the sequel.
 
Let me say this to start: Godzilla (2014) is not a bad movie at all, but i feel that a lot of people are not really going to get it.

The problem with Godzilla being, well, Godzilla, is that he is such an iconic figure that everyone knows him, but the general population has not actually seen a Godzilla movie; all they really have is the legend built around the icon and as such their expectactions for anything Godzilla are rarely realistic.

I think this is important in order to understand the reactions to this movie because, in an odd twist of destiny, this is a very Godzilla movie.

Seriously, when i was half-way through the movie i thought 'this is an extremelly Showa-esque movie', mostly because everything about it, from the way the characters acted as the focus to the way MUTO was the actual threat of the movie, was extremelly reminiscent from the classic Godzilla movies, mostly the ones made during the 60´s.

You can tell that Gareth Edwards knew the material, in some ways this movie is a love Letter to the Tomoyuki Tanaka era, but this is also one of the reasons why this movie will be divisive and it actually explains some of the problems people have with the film. For example, everyone makes a big deal about how for a movie called 'Godzilla' the titular monster is barely in the movie, and what´s more, the movie isn´t even about him. I agree with this complain to some extent, but thinking back on it, Godzilla also had a very minimal presence during the Showa Movies; those movies usually focused on whatever issue the human characters were dealing with and the monster which served as the main threat, with Godzilla only serving as the trump card. Sure, he rocked the screen whenever he was in it and looking forward to him is a big part of what made those movies enjoyable, but even some of the best Showa movies were barely about Godzilla.

I am not trying to say that the movie is perfect, it definetily has issues, but i can see the logic behind them and for the most they are not deal breakers.

There´s a few things i would have changed though; Brian Cranston was Great, and while i don´t have a lot of issues with his early death on the film, i wish his death had been a little more poignant. He was quite sympathetic and his actions were important for the plot, so i wish that his death had more gravitas to it for as it is it feels like they just needed to get him out of the movie as quickly as possible. I am not asking for a complete overhaul of his character or anything, but maybe a scene where people recognized his effort and redeem his character a little more.

I would have also liked to see a bit more focus on Dr. Serizawa, i really liked the way Watanabe played him and i enjoyed both his admiration for Godzilla and the way he tried to portray the tragedy of nuclear weapons. I said tried because this aspect of the movie was somewhat underplayed, but that was mostly an issue of the movie not giving him enough scenes.

Now, i know i said that i understood why there was so little Godzilla in this movie, but the fact remains that this movie was supposed to reintroduce the character and yet less than a minute is spent on his backstory. I am serious, the movie seems to take Godzilla for granted, and while this does fall in line with the approach classic Godzilla Movies took, this movie really needed to focus on giving him a proper introduction, especially because his origin is pretty interesting; it was both faithfull to the original story and surprisingly plausible, i really wanted to hear more of that.

I think that the only thing i could really hold against this movie is the way it focused on the monsters; they way Edwards choose to portray the Kaiju action for most of the movie was realistic and dare i say grounded, but while it was an interesting take it also downplayed the scope of the situation. There are a lot of scenes that could have been really epic, but they end up being just scenes.

The final act of the movie does make up for it, thinking about it i have never seen such a realistic destruction of a city. I mean yes, the fights in Pacific Rim were awesome, but most of the time it seemed that they were fighting in this magic Fighting Game corridor surrounded by buildings, while in Godzilla it actually feels like they are fightin on a city were people live.

All in all, i can say that i liked the movie, it has issues but i enjoyed it and i will probably watch it again, but i can tell that a lot of people will have issues with it becaue it certainly is not the Godzilla movie they were expecting, which is odd because, all things considered, this is an ACTUAL Godzilla movie.

Make of that what you will.
 
There's a legit reason why Godzilla's not good as of now. First of all, why you call a movie Godzilla when it's all about the humans? Plus, I hate offscreen fight scenes. Other than that, I can't wait to see the sequel.

Have you ever seen the original movie? He's in it for like 25-30 minutes, if that, and that movie is over an hour and a half long.
 
I've seen the original alright and for me, that's the best Godzilla for its spectacle (no CGI effects, only camera tricks, rubber suits) and hidden message regarding nuclear disaster. This 2014 has more human interaction than Final Wars and that's the problem right now. This and so many fanatics defending it to death are the reasons not all people are impressed by the overall reaction. Would like a movie like James Bond with no James Bond in it or Ultraman appearing late an hour later? I already give away my two cents here: the visual effects are good, no political messages involved, the character development is good but the fight scenes are similar to Batman Begins (revolting editing) and so-called Bryan Cranston bait and switch. Plus, the "Cloverfield" MUTO is not creative. Did I say this movie is bad? No but still it's not good for some aspects.
 
If it is well paced and well plotted, what does it matter?

Oh, and I don't see how Bryan Cranston was a bait and switch. In fact, how dare a movie trailer not tell us the entire movie in its trailer!!!

Godzilla isn't usually evil, it's just pissed off to begin it. After all, he/she is a product of nuclear radiation due to human error in the past. Basically, Godzilla is sent by Mother Nature to destroy those who are responsible for his/her mutation and destroying his/her abode.

Unless you're GMK Godzilla.

BTW, I went to see the movie again yesterday and loved it just as much as the first time. Sorry, but anyone that says this is not a true Godzilla movie has never watched many Godzilla movies. It has all of the same tropes as the others, especially from the Showa era.
 

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