Den-o Gun VS Drake

[GekiChopper]

Clock-Up sure really is a very unfair ability when put into crossovers. XDD

But even without Clock-Up, Kamen Rider Drake would still win. He could choose to fight Den-O Gun Form in Masked Form first, then when moving in for the kill, can Cast Off and finish the battle.

In fact, I do think Cast Off can be a good distraction.

 

[KamenGrappler]

Ryuuta would kick Daisuke's happy ass. Ryuuta went toe to toe with Zero's altair form, and there's no one you can tell me drake would be able to do that.

 

[koji17]

I never said anything about going back in time lol deno can go anyplace intime past present or future. There are also things about being a Singularity Point that could be affected by clock up let alone the imagin there is still tons about them we do not know... hell they pulled a sword out of imagination just by drawing it

So deno being able to match up with clock up would not surprise me the least! Even if it was just some kind of automatic defense by the suit or imagin that they don't even know they have When you start mixing things up like this you can't just go oh that wouldn't work because of that! You have to play a lil :buttrock: :laugh:

Well you still haven't given me anything else other than a singularity point might effect the clock-up. What does being a singularity point even have to do with that? Singularity point just means one can become Kamen Rider and isn't affected by time. Clock-up has nothing to do with time, it has everything to do with speed. Slowed-time from the user's POV could be an effect of Clock-up, but the cause is the increase in speed) I tried to understand what you are saying, but it just seems like you are trying to play just enough to give Ryuuta the advantage. lol :laugh:

Try to judge the battle based on what we've seen from them in the show. That's the fairest I believe. From my opinion with that in mind, a clock-up Drake will pwn Ryuu everytime. :anime:

The poll just got very interesting now I must say. More people for Ryuu. That just gets me thinking if this thread were about Kabuto Vs. Den-O, how many people would have gone for Den-O? LOL

 

[KamenGrappler]

Yeah well Kabuto vs Den-O is a completely different fight. Tendou used to smack Daisuke around all the time. Plus he has the hyper zecter and the omni sword. Drake had a hard time even fighting the basic green worm.

 

[x1xBladex1x]

I like gun form better, but Drake would win with the better aim & Clock up, even if he can't fight as good as Ryuuta, the clock up would probably beat ryuuta, but if there was no clock up, Ryuutaros would kick his butt.

 

[Undrave]

Well you still haven't given me anything else other than a singularity point might effect the clock-up. What does being a singularity point even have to do with that? Singularity point just means one can become Kamen Rider and isn't affected by time. Clock-up has nothing to do with time, it has everything to do with speed. Slowed-time from the user's POV could be an effect of Clock-up, but the cause is the increase in speed) I tried to understand what you are saying, but it just seems like you are trying to play just enough to give Ryuuta the advantage. lol :laugh:

Try to judge the battle based on what we've seen from them in the show. That's the fairest I believe. From my opinion with that in mind, a clock-up Drake will pwn Ryuu everytime. :anime:

First I'd like to point out that Den-o can't travel in time unless he's got a ticket, a ticket that is based on someone's memory.

Anyway Clock-Up is first said to be a speed related power, but then its evolution, Hyper Clock-Up, turns out to allow time travel... which makes me wonder if somebody didn't screw up somewhere :redface2:

 

[GekiChopper]

Anyway Clock-Up is first said to be a speed related power, but then its evolution, Hyper Clock-Up, turns out to allow time travel... which makes me wonder if somebody didn't screw up somewhere :redface2:

Maybe Hyper Clock-Up just grants the user a VERY dramatic speed increase, far more than regular Clock-Up.

Because hey! After all, i popular theorem, if you can somehow travel faster than the speed of light, then you can travel between space and time, right? Maybe that's the idea behind Hyper Clock-Up, traveling at VERY high speeds.

I could be wrong, though...

 

[koji17]

Yeah well Kabuto vs Den-O is a completely different fight. Tendou used to smack Daisuke around all the time. Plus he has the hyper zecter and the omni sword. Drake had a hard time even fighting the basic green worm.

Depsite that, Daisuke also had some great fights with Kabuto, but you only seem to remember his losses. lol

I like gun form better, but Drake would win with the better aim & Clock up, even if he can't fight as good as Ryuuta, the clock up would probably beat ryuuta, but if there was no clock up, Ryuutaros would kick his butt.

Actually, I don't think Ryuuta can even fight better than Drake. If both of them didn't have guns, Drake would have the advantage. (He used to fight Kabuto without his gun and held his own a few times) However, with good aim, I think Ryuuta is a more skillful gun user.

 

[Synch]

I always thought that clock up froze time for the most part hence hwo they all moved "faster" Interesting though maybe I'm way off on that :S

 

[koji17]

I always thought that clock up froze time for the most part hence hwo they all moved "faster" Interesting though maybe I'm way off on that :S

No, Clock-up increased the speed of the user so fast, the effect was that time looked like it was slowed down. If you watch some Kabuto episodes, you'll notice that the bystanders around during clock-up don't notice any changes. That was the whole point of the many props they used, to utilize this idea. You should watch the early episode with the roller-coaster to get good examples of this.