Batman/Superman Movie Next?

[MattComix]

I'm sure you did too as a kid on the playground.

Nope. On the playground my answer was always "That's stupid. They're both good guys."

In the comics I read as a kid the Worlds Finest comic series was still going and they were friends so it made the idea even more idiotic to me. I also never got into this with other superhero characters because they are superheroes not wrestlers. So unless it's a misunderstanding or mind control thing the idea of hero vs. hero was always stupid to me. I never felt the need to have my favorite character beat up the other heroes in order to validate my love of that character.

They want to see their favorite superheroes test themselves against each other.

If it's a thing of where there's some friction initially ala the DCAU Worlds Finest movie that's one thing. If the two brawling against each other is the major selling point of the movie or they want to force a DKR scenario that's something else.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

I just found some of her Pre-New 52 stories to be boring. None of them have been able to hook me in like Azzarello's run has. The first arc helped established the world around Wonder Woman which I think a movie should do. I'm not saying take the entire first arc word from word and adapt it but take the elements like the Gods, the twist with Wonder Woman when she learns a particular thing, and building a cast of characters around her since she doesn't really have a support group outside of other Amazons who don't leave the island.

I'm sure they're better solo Wonder Woman stories out there but I've always liked her interactions when she's apart of the JLA. I'll try to read some more of her Pre-New 52 history.

Gail Simone's Wonder Woman was solid work. Beautifully drawn stories that were actually about Wonder Woman, as opposed to everyone else but her.

And this is why I prefer the marvel universe movies. They don't have to fall back on doom and gloom. They are about heroes.

The very definition of irony...

Isn't that what most people are waiting to see when two franchise favorites meet?

Animated Batman and Animated Superman

Jason and Freddy

Alien and Predator

Iron Man VS Thor

Thor VS Hulk


There's no denying that there will be some confrontation

Kid's and fans have had endless conversations on who's favorite character would win in a fight. I'm sure you did too as a kid on the playground.

They want to see their favorite superheroes test themselves against each other.

Kids are one thing. Adults are another. That said, there is a problem here:

In Avengers, they had Cap, Iron Man, and Thor throw down for about five minutes or so, and its one of my favorite fight scenes in the film. But here's the trick; they all look like equals. Cap doesn't look like a weakling compared to two people with superpowers, Iron Man isn't bitched compared to Thor, and Thor still comes off looking like a god.

I don't have faith in Warner Bros. to pull that off. There's going to be something, some moment in Man of Steel 2 where either Superman or Batman is made to look inferior by comparison to the other, and its going to suck.

Except fanboys are stupid, and they're going to rave over that one moment, because they want one side to "win", and the best writers all know that's the secret to doing these clashes: no one should ever "win".

 

[Ice Ixa]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but Liam McIntyre (Spartacus) wants to be Batman.

Spartacus, Bringer of Fucking Rain, as Batman. This has to happen.

 

[kuroihikari]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but Liam McIntyre (Spartacus) wants to be Batman.

Spartacus, Bringer of Fucking Rain, as Batman. This has to happen.

Can he do an American accent?

Because if he can, I'm in on that. Not many people liked his Spartacus after the first one died, but he's great and will fill the Batman role just right.

 

[Ice Ixa]

Not many people liked him? Really? I can't see why they'd say that.

I did a little Googling, no idea on the accent part, but I'm sure he could.

 

[Ben3000]

Gail Simone's Wonder Woman was solid work. Beautifully drawn stories that were actually about Wonder Woman, as opposed to everyone else but her..

I'll give Gail Simone's run a shot. Hopefully it's on Comixology.

 

[urugoji]

This is such a shame. I've always really liked Batman (somewhat ambivalent to Superman), but I couldn't stand Man of Steel, and I especially can't stand films by Zack Snyder. So as much as I would love to see more Batman, I may have to skip this one.

 

[Kivat]

This is such a shame. I've always really liked Batman (somewhat ambivalent to Superman), but I couldn't stand Man of Steel, and I especially can't stand films by Zack Snyder. So as much as I would love to see more Batman, I may have to skip this one.

This really intrigues me. Why don't you like Zack's films and Man of Steel?

 

[urugoji]

This really intrigues me. Why don't you like Zack's films and Man of Steel?

For me, Zack Snyder is a low brow filmmaker. His films are just as violent, sexual, and spectacle-driven as any film by, say, Michael Bay...but he doesn't realize it. He thinks he's making high art, and he's somehow managed to convince the majority of general audiences that that's what his films are. Few directors can miss the entire point of an adapted property so often and still get away with audience and fan approval. (I was even passionate enough about it to write a 15 page essay explaining why I thought that Zack Snyder should not get credit for anything good to come out of Watchmen).

Then Man of Steel was just a mess to me. To the point that I had trouble sitting through it. I didn't feel like the nonlinear editing made any sense. I thought the pacing was way off considering the movie is completely bottom-loaded with mindless action. I thought the motivations and "character development" behind Superman (particularly when dealing with Jonathan Kent) were ridiculous. Most of all, though, I don't see how that film establishes Superman as a "hero." Sure, he stops the bad guys, but it's such a depressing and destructive ride to get there that I can't imagine any sane person in the fictional Metropolis (i.e., an average citizen) that would look at this Superman and say, "There's our great glorious hero."

Snyder took the character too deep into drama too soon and then never explores the consequences of it. That's my problem with Man of Steel and Snyder's directing.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

For me, Zack Snyder is a low brow filmmaker. His films are just as violent, sexual, and spectacle-driven as any film by, say, Michael Bay...but he doesn't realize it. He thinks he's making high art, and he's somehow managed to convince the majority of general audiences that that's what his films are. Few directors can miss the entire point of an adapted property so often and still get away with audience and fan approval. (I was even passionate enough about it to write a 15 page essay explaining why I thought that Zack Snyder should not get credit for anything good to come out of Watchmen).

Then Man of Steel was just a mess to me. To the point that I had trouble sitting through it. I didn't feel like the nonlinear editing made any sense. I thought the pacing was way off considering the movie is completely bottom-loaded with mindless action. I thought the motivations and "character development" behind Superman (particularly when dealing with Jonathan Kent) were ridiculous. Most of all, though, I don't see how that film establishes Superman as a "hero." Sure, he stops the bad guys, but it's such a depressing and destructive ride to get there that I can't imagine any sane person in the fictional Metropolis (i.e., an average citizen) that would look at this Superman and say, "There's our great glorious hero."

Snyder took the character too deep into drama too soon and then never explores the consequences of it. That's my problem with Man of Steel and Snyder's directing.

I didn't hate Man of Steel. Still, this isn't an inaccurate post.