Y3K's Very Interesting Essay About SPD

The real answer is that it's fiction like any other. And those with imaginations can do whatever they want with it, cuz that's what it's for. Entertainment created so that those with imaginations can have fun with it.

Take it as serious as you wanna, take it not as serious as you wanna. In the end how you take it in is your call.

I haven't read y3k's thingy, but it sounds neat. So long as he had a good time writing it, that's all that matters to me.
 
You know JC, That has to be one of wisest answers I could of expected. Thank you for not trying to push a certain mindset down everyone's throat because of what it was aimed for.
 
Please, go back to RB or Funaroboard or wherever you came from. You don't know HJU. Only one person has been adamantly outspoken against Doug and he hasnt made a thread about the man in over a year. This message board, like all others, will have people who hate and love. There are just as many people here who liked Dougs work who also hated it. It is certainly not the majority consensus to hate Doug at HJU. It never was, never has, and never will. Stop forcing your stereotype based on one member

I've been here longer than Chris or whoever else is here directly from FB, and I saw the Kalish bias first hand, Doug's seasons were attacked here constantly, noone in 2005 could speak ill of Bruce Almighty until it became a major fandom issue.

This is not an attack against you, this is just a comment on your post.

Telling someone to "go back to Funaroboard or wherever you came from" is'nt a direct attack?

Could've fooled me :rolleyes2:


Thanks for the encouragment Keith, it should hopefully provoke more members to make these kind of topics.
 
I got no vendetta against Doug.... just really don't like his take on Power Rangers and prefer Bruce's by a looooonnnng shot.

Doug takes the footage and jams it together with hammy heroes and stories.... Samurai Quest not withstanding.

Bruce takes the material and weaves it into an entire fantasy world, and that I really liked. It's far from flawless, but still better than what Doug does in my opinion.
 
Good contrast to the times I use "Bruce uses senseless explosions and crappy wire-fu to mask and disguise the lack of substance in the prescense of style" :laugh:

I respect your views Keith, I just hate when you get too passionate about 'em and go further than you need to, lighter PR seems to be a sour subject whenever you have to discuss it
 
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I know I don't hate Doug. Can't say I'm too fond of a few of the seasons he's been in charge of, but I have no problems with him, himself.
 
See, and I always wanted you to explain that.

The narrative world of SPD completely falls apart. I mean -- even Rangerboard, at this point, has seen SPD for the narrative mess it is. And a narrative mess is fine. I love LG, and that makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You want to talk about footage getting mashed for purposes which it does not work for, Kalish seasons are it.

Where is this fantasy world of which you speak? The Mystic Realm has paved roads, and signs of an industrialized world somewhere that is NEVER touched upon. How could Rita have aided in the battle against Octomus' forces so long ago if she was in the dumpster (because the Mystic Source ain't been helping them out lately, and if she's a friend of Udonna's...)? Where is this sense of the big fantasy world? Where is this sense of INTERNAL LOGIC?

NS (much as I dislike it), completely sold me on the sense of the nineteen Ninja Academies spaced out all over the world. Leeann studying in Nepal in particular. She got wind of the Thunder Academy's attack, and was in flight back home when the (unnamed) academy she'd been studying at was attacked. NS works its ass off in those last few eps to pull its narrative together, and it almost works. Oh, the retcons are transparently there, but they are a viable suture on the wound.

Doug was frank enough to admit when he didn't know the answers on NS's world construction. They got lazy. At no time during Dino Thunder did Doug fail to have an answer to a question on how this universe was structured, or how it tied together. I didn't think to ask all the questions I should have, but the man had answers to everything. Similarly, there has never been a question about Animaria Amit did not have an answer about.

So tell me, Keith. How does SPD make you feel, when it clearly does not have a sense of larger universe? As Tom pointed out, the organizational structure of SPD and how it works is a mess. There's some narrative gaps which border on the ludicrous (they continue to doubt time travel is real WHEN SAM IS ON THE TEAM), etc. The entire timeline where Gruumm rules the world but Omni never emerges makes no sense in light of later revelations.

Oh, MF was better, but MF was still basically Sentai footage being bent in shapes which are at odds with themselves. That's why I'm so surprised you would level an insult like "Doug isn't using the footage right" at his work. That man helped create PR. Unlike Bruce, Doug has a deep appreciation for Sentai and PR as distinct things. Bruce, rightly or wrongly, has said PR is adapted Sentai pure and simple. Their job is to translate. And yet -- he's adapted elements which should not to, or contradict one another.

When did Doug do this? Oh, the cloned White Ranger is dopey -- but at no time does it work in DEFIANCE of any of the footage they used. We never see the Dinozords acting like they're capable of talking or higher organizational thought. It seems to me like you judge PR on whether or not it uses the source footage to your liking (or in a way you deem "appropriate"), not whether or not it makes narrative or even logical sense.

I may be misconstruing you here, Keith, but -- seriously, you think SPD paints pictures of a vast, internally logical world? Are you sure you aren't seeing that through the haze of Dekaranger, which DID make internal sense? You said once you haven't seen much Dino Thunder. Have you asked anyone if your perceptions might be mistaken? ARE you the best person to judge the relative strengths of seasons you never saw against ones you did?
 

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