When do You Think Secondary Riders Should Debut?

[Lynxara]

Toei can order the creators to put something into a series, but they can't order them to make it not stupid.

 

[BLASTMATIC]

I THINK BOTH METEOR AND BIRTH BOTH SHOWED UP AT THE RIGHT TIME, I THINK KAMEN RIDER BIRTH'S DEBUT WAS A LITTLE MORE BETTER WHILE METEOR'S DEBUT WAS ALLOT MORE FLASHIER.

AS WELL AS I LOVED KAMEN RIDER ACCEL DEBUT AS WELL SO I THINK IF YOU GOING TO DO A 50 EPISODE SERIES ITS GOTTA BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 20 EPISODIC RANGE WHERE THEN YOU CAN SEE THE CHARACTER DEVELOP SIMILAR TO THIS YEAR'S SECOND RIDER IN KAMEN RIDER METEOR

 

[Shynilyte]

I never said that. The Hopper Bros were awful characters and I've complained enough about what I didn't like about Kabuto already on this site (Tendou in particular). But I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a great design, and all of the Kabuto riders (in the show) all looked great.

It's funny because to contrast, the Worms were really boring monsters outside of two specific ones.

The character designers and the writers are two completely different groups of people. Assuming that because I praise one group I must praise or at least give leeway to the other is a fallacy.

Yeah, I get what you mean. It's especially easy to enjoy costume designs without necessarily liking the show itself if you have the toys and stuff.

Also, a Dark Double/W would be weird. Half of W is already black. And the thought of the Gaia Memory voice going "Dark Cyclone! Dark Joker!" feels awkward.

And with OOO, there technically was a Dark/Evil/whatever OOO. King OOO.

 

[HenshinSlayer]

Yeah, I get what you mean. It's especially easy to enjoy costume designs without necessarily liking the show itself if you have the toys and stuff.

Also, a Dark Double/W would be weird. Half of W is already black. And the thought of the Gaia Memory voice going "Dark Cyclone! Dark Joker!" feels awkward.

And with OOO, there technically was a Dark/Evil/whatever OOO. King OOO.

How about opposites of W's gaia memories?
Ex.
Smog - Cyclone
Ace - Joker
Frost - Heat
Rust - Metal

 

[Shynilyte]

That could work. At least with how "Smog!" sounds better than "Dark Cyclone!" Although, there's never been a form-changing Dark Rider, and I think that's because keeping track of the powers would get a little too complicated. Maybe he can be like Nega Den-o, who (I think) could use all four weapons without changing forms.

However, I can't imagine an evil Rider working for the series itself. So, while the concept might make for something interesting, just isn't something KR Double needs for its storyline.

 

[FlashNeko]

However, I can't imagine an evil Rider working for the series itself. So, while the concept might make for something interesting, just isn't something KR Double needs for its storyline.

Plus... y'know... Eternal.

 

[Shynilyte]

Well, he wasn't actually part of the series. Just the movies.

 

[Tom Constantine]

Kiva - King Fangire vs King Fangire (although Kiva's "King" was in English, while Decade's "King" was actually called "Oh", IIRC)

At the time it made sorta sense to differentiate the new Kiva to the old one that had just finished airing. Although that change got cloudy when they decided to bring Yuria Haga back to reprise her role as Mio, the present day Fangire Queen in the final episidoes and referred to her as "Queen" not the Japanese word "Joou".

 

[Artic_Rival]

Plus... y'know... Eternal.

But he wasn't evil, he was just mentally broken. Sure, he killed his mother and wanted to do the same to all of Futo, but deep down, he just was upset that his girl he only met for a day got 'killed'. :laugh: