*Wants to get into Kamen Rider*

actually I've watched some Kuuga episode before I watched the entire 555. somehow at that moment, I can't figure out the awesomeness of Kuuga series. It was just when I watched Kuuga again, slowly and full attentionly...i just realise, this series and the rider is awesome :shakefist
 
Black? Yes. RX? Hell no, that had to be one of the worst shows of the first gen. Not just because it couldn't live up to Black, but just because it sucked.
 
I'm in agreement there. RX was pretty stupid and sometimes stupid stuff can be really entertaining, but RX just wasn't any fun to watch. For New Gen, I've said it many times before, but Agito is definitely the best as well as the most overlooked. I think more people should give older Kamen Rider shows a chance. The original, V3, X (depending on your tastes), Amazon, and Super 1 (in it's own little way) were all fairly-very good.
 
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The original, V3, X (depending on your tastes), Amazon, and Super 1 (in it's own little way) were all fairly-very good.

No Stronger? I like Stronger because it's this melding pot of Rider -- the coolest aspects of each series prior to it wrapped in one, with a strong sense of balls out finality to it. I guess people have a problem with those "S" shirts he wears, but...hey, that's the acid-droppin' '70s for you!

I've recently been rewatching the first series for the first time in five or so years. I was never really into the Hayato days, but I'm enjoying those this time around. I seemed to always remember Ichimonji seeming way too damn cheery, but as I watch it this time, I'm noticing these little odd subtleties Sasaki puts into his performance -- sure, Hayato's always smiling. But it's this sort of bizarre, mischievous smile -- Sasaki plays some scenes like he's taking a sadistic joy in tormenting people! From his intro ep screwing with Taki and Tachibana's heads to his cackling at beating up the goons, it's a funny subtlety that I hadn't noticed before (unless I'm reading Sasaki wrong). At any rate, at least they didn't just carbon copy Hongou, like most of the '70s Riders that followed.

The original is a very cool show (especially when they get those regular villains like Sol and Shinigami), but it's sadly most likely too "ancient" for most people. Case in point - there was recently a thread at Japan Hero where someone posted a link to the first ep on YouTube and the responses were nothing but "OMG!! The monsters turn into foam when they die, how lame! *goes back to singing 'Girls in Trouble Dekaranger'*" I feel like the others of the '70s are just a rehash though (especially V3, which was relatively the same but with weaker villains), at least until Amazon and Stronger.

Super One and RX are the worst of the Showa shows, IMO. Skyrider's just basically another rehash, only with more bitchin' effects, which doesn't add much interest.
 
I didn't really like Stronger. In fact I can't think of anything I really did enjoy, from the cast, to the curiously terrible costumes, to the annoying, "shove-a-Bic-in-your-inner-ear-canal" theme song. Super 1 was, I thought, a lot of fun, and had a great theme and cool action scenes, despite being horrifically corny at times. Plus holy ****, the costume was awesome! I want a glove like that! I'm a little more unenthusiastic about the bike, but hey, what can you do.

The original is a very cool show (especially when they get those regular villains like Sol and Shinigami), but it's sadly most likely too "ancient" for most people. Case in point - there was recently a thread at Japan Hero where someone posted a link to the first ep on YouTube and the responses were nothing but "OMG!! The monsters turn into foam when they die, how lame! *goes back to singing 'Girls in Trouble Dekaranger'*" I feel like the others of the '70s are just a rehash though (especially V3, which was relatively the same but with weaker villains), at least until Amazon and Stronger.

Chu chu chu, I love the foamy deaths! I just love the energy old shows had because they knew they couldn't afford good effects but they didn't give a **** and proceeded to make awesome fun fun shows without all the glitter and glam.
 
I'll say that Stronger's costume is...wacky and takes some getting used to (he looks SD, FFS!), but I still managed to enjoy that show. I thought General Shadow was a pretty cool looking villain, though. And the Stronger ED theme is just about the only time I can tolerate Screechtsuko Horie.

But how can you like the Super One theme!?! It's dull and uninspiring, a lullaby! I believe Shunsuke Takasugi to be the father of Yoffy with his stomped-in-dog-**** flat vocals. Another problem I have with Takasugi is that he's probably the least charismatic of all of the actors who played Rider at the time.

As for the buggers who put down the foamy and stringy deaths...I always say it was '71, for cryin' out loud. What was on American television at the time? Crap like The Brady Bunch! At least Kamen Rider was trying something lightyears more creative and ambitious than the poopy that was on American television at the time. Not to mention that the original had some (what I consider to be) very creative camera angles and filming techniques to make up for what they were unable to do in the SFX department at the time.
 
I never really liked the Stronger suit, nor did I like the clothes he wore when not transformed. The only real reason I watched the show was because I heard it was supposed to be the final Kamen Rider show, so I wanted to see how everything was supposed to end. Nothing that great, but it was an okay watch.

American TV did have some superhero shows on at the time. Not that many of them were great or would really be remembered today, but they were there. And still a LOT better than what it had to offer during the 80s.

Shougo, got the link to that thread at JH you were talking about? Or any thread like that in general? I've always been curious myself as to what people like that really think about the older stuff.
 

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