Unofficial Sentai Akibaranger Season 2 - Discussion Thread

I don't think it was Luna's wrong perception that causes the change to Zyuranger in the Delusion World.

Remember, she said she thought Powerful Rangers are the original because the internet says so. Which means, it was already like that even before Akagi shows her the Tyrannoranger picture. It was caused by someone else, not Luna.
 
They pointed to her and said "It's you!". It doesn't get clearer than that. Also she checked the internet after they first saw the Powerful Rangers and the delusion affected the real world.
 
They pointed to her and said "It's you!". It doesn't get clearer than that. Also she checked the internet after they first saw the Powerful Rangers and the delusion affected the real world.

Yeah, I was wrong about "the internet says so" part, turns out she mentioned it after they checked the internet.

However.......

She says "so this Sentai stuff is from America" after they saw the Powerful Rangers picture on Akagi's smartphone.
Which means she just thought Sentai is from America AFTER she saw it.

And that also means, Powerful Rangers is already happening BEFORE she thought about it.
Which in turn means it wasn't Luna who caused it. She never even thought about it before she saw the picture on Akagi's smartphone.






As for why Akagi and the others thought it was Luna who caused it, it could be a mistake stemming from the fact that throughout the day, Luna is the only one near them to keep saying and believing that Sentai originates from America. They are stressed by the change and Luna insisting that the change is correct, after all. I can totally see them not paying attention to the small detail I mentioned above (Luna mentioning Sentai is from America only after she saw Powerful Rangers on Akagi's smartphone) due to the stress.
 
And that also means, Powerful Rangers is already happening BEFORE she thought about it.

The Powerful Rangers picture at that point was just Tyranno Ranger though. It was only when the dellusion started that they had star and stripes necks and belts.

I guess there's a chance it could have been a prop failure, but that'd be pretty big.
 
The first time Luna saw Powerful Rangers was when Spielburton (an American) was playing with it. There was no reason for her to believe it came from Japan, so she probably would've thought it came from America.

And because she thought Spielburton liked it, she was going "kakkoi!" all the time. The entire thing was clearly her fault.
 
Look at that Dino Thunder episode. Connor didn't like Abaranger at first but by the end of the episode he loved it. That whole episode was about how something different can still have value and be awesome.

Yeah, but then they credit the whole episode to a guy who is definitely not Japanese. If you weren't already a fan who knew about Sentai, you would conclude from that episode that the credited writer came up with the whole thing. That is kind of the point of writing credits, so you know who did what (and who deserves either praise or blame for it). That's at best contradictory and at worst entirely hypocritical.

Maybe there was some business reason why they couldn't credit the original writers, but chances are nobody ever considered it. Even in cases where Japanese scripts were adapted, Power Rangers never credited the Japanese writers until Power Rangers Samurai. And there's no working writer who's going to be cool with the idea of someone using their scripts and not crediting them... or even worse, taking credit for them.

I mean Sakamoto works for Sentai and if Sakamoto hated PR then...I guess I just don't understand the world anymore.

Sakamoto's opinion is likely very different. This is probably due in large part to Sakamoto having received a proper on-screen credit for what he did while working on Power Rangers. It's kind of weird, actually? All of the Japanese guys who work on the original footage stunts and action sequences have always gotten credit, so those guys can use PR to further their careers. It's just the writers for whom PR is perhaps worse than useless.

That's really quite interesting (that Kobyashi received credit for PR Samurai). Do you know why there's this difference between her and the other writers?

The going theory is that it's because Samurai featured so little original material. The basic framework of the original Shinkenger plot is there, and entire scenes in Samurai are direct translations of their Shinkenger counterpart. I imagine it also looks good for something called "Power Rangers Samurai" to flash a Japanese name up among the writing credits every episode.

Except if it happens with Faiz, then it's a diaper pile of stinky. :loltongue:

That's what people think about Faiz now, but at the time it was coming out, people took it completely seriously. And Inoue's interviews about Faiz are basically talking about the show as if it was a work of *~great artistic merit~*. I would say wanting a work like that under his belt is probably why Inoue insisted on writing all of Faiz.

It was caused by someone else, not Luna.

I feel like we're probably going to find out, at some point, that all of the painful/embarrassing delusions were caused by General Pain. Perhaps by him editing Wikipedia, or just being as deluded as Nobuo. General Pain is clearly the sort of fan who likes some seasons more than others, and might resent popular seasons that took attention away from his favorites.
 
All I'm gonna say re: Powerful Rangers is that it's a good thing Operation Overdrive was never re-imported to Japan or this episode might have been QUITE a bit more bitter. Still, I enjoyed this episode.

I know Luna hasn't jibed with some people but I find her interesting as a lot of the stuff she's doing sounds like a lot of the old fan legends about Tamao Sato's behavior on OhRanger. IE: She doesn't really seem to understand or care about what's going on with anything beyond the context of "how can this help me become a super popular idol".

I think Arakawa worked a bit on OhRanger, not in any lead role obviously but perhaps he was around enough to have heard about/seen some of the incidents that became and/or got twisted into the fan legends? Luna's behavior at least seems too specific to not be referencing SOMETHING more than just wanna-be idol behavior in general.

I suppose the most telling sign will be if the ending has Luna going on to do a radio show where she angrily denies ever having been part of AkibaRanger or it does something to point out that such long standing fan legends about actor behavior are usually not true.
 
Arakawa actually doesn't have any writing credits on Ohranger. The gimmick for Ohranger is that all of the episodes (IIRC) are written by Sugimura, Soda, Uehara, or Inoue-- at the time, everyone who had ever been the head writer of a Sentai season.
 
Yeah, I was wrong about "the internet says so" part, turns out she mentioned it after they checked the internet.

However.......

She says "so this Sentai stuff is from America" after they saw the Powerful Rangers picture on Akagi's smartphone.
Which means she just thought Sentai is from America AFTER she saw it.

And that also means, Powerful Rangers is already happening BEFORE she thought about it.
Which in turn means it wasn't Luna who caused it. She never even thought about it before she saw the picture on Akagi's smartphone.

As for why Akagi and the others thought it was Luna who caused it, it could be a mistake stemming from the fact that throughout the day, Luna is the only one near them to keep saying and believing that Sentai originates from America. They are stressed by the change and Luna insisting that the change is correct, after all. I can totally see them not paying attention to the small detail I mentioned above (Luna mentioning Sentai is from America only after she saw Powerful Rangers on Akagi's smartphone) due to the stress.
Are you watching this show dude...

Akagi mistakenly showed her a picture of Powerful Rangers not Zyuranger with his phone. That led Luna to think Sentai comes from Powerful Rangers. Nobody is saying that Luna created Powerful Rangers. Powerful Rangers existed as this world as a Sentai adoption. What Luna did cause was the delusion that Sentai came from Powerful Rangers. Nobody is blaming her about Powerful Rangers existing they are blaming her for making Powerful Rangers come before Super Sentai. This is proven when, as I said before, they point to her and say "It's you!" I don't know why you're so adamant on proving Luna innocent. THEY POINT TO HER AND SAY "IT'S YOU!" The rest of the episode Luna is confused because she already thought Powerful Rangers came first but everything online said otherwise but what she wasn't realizing is that she's the one that changed it.
 
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