TOKU BUSTED!!!

[unmei]

I suspect Toei is going to attempt to sell as much of their library as possible to Hulu... and even stuff they can't sell they probably don't want being DLed out in the wild.

That could be the case. but it seems like they're cracking down too randomly for that. Why limit it to primarily HD releases? They're getting a lot more IPs from just sitting on the torrents then they're serving letters for, and they're not going after any of the groups themselves, only the downloaders.

 

[Lynxara]

That could be the case. but it seems like they're cracking down too randomly for that. Why limit it to primarily HD releases?

My guess here is that an HD release is arguably offering image quality higher than Hulu and equivalent to DVDs, I suspect. HDTVs are also standard in Japan by now, so I'm sure Toei isn't concerned about losing Japanese viewers to SD releases.

They're getting a lot more IPs from just sitting on the torrents then they're serving letters for, and they're not going after any of the groups themselves, only the downloaders.

This is basically Japanese-style copyright enforcement, trying to shame people into stopping without having to start expensive legal action. American-style enforcement would be to go directly after the group and cut the encodes off at the source.

Americans are also generally more litigious and will sue at the drop of a hat. For Japanese companies the lawsuit tends to be viewed more as a last resort, especially for correcting consumer behavior.

 

[Bolt]

Sounds like bull, I wouldn't pay too much attention to them.

 

[Momotaros]

I got the letter from my ISP saying how they were offended that I'd download Shinkenger..... I forget... what's the general consensus on this? Is this something to take seriously?

Is there a work around with downloading it directly instead of using BT?

Is there something for Vista I can use that would hide what I DL?

Why do people still use torrents any ways. It's easier to get caught using a bittorrent. Keith my advice is stick with DL. I don't use any torrents for my toku needs.

 

[Lynxara]

Why do people still use torrents any ways.

A lot of groups are absolutely lousy when it comes to making sure releases are hosted for DDL.

 

[Momotaros]

A lot of groups are absolutely lousy when it comes to making sure releases are hosted for DDL.

Then just don't get files from that certain group. Unless a file on DL I just wont download it. On torrents your letting the world see your ip. A least with DL on forums and such. The mpaa,Toei,and such have no clue if you even downloaded the file or not.

 

[Keith Justice]

So you can't get busted from DDL?

 

[Aoi Kurenai]

So you can't get busted from DDL?

Well, you can, but...

Dude walks into a store with a gun and demands money

Dude walks into a store with a gun and a mask on and demands money

 

[Momotaros]

So you can't get busted from DDL?

As far as I know Keith. Nobody been busted from DL. As I said thier no real way to tell with a direct link who downloaded the file or not. Unless the person tells the world they downloaded the file from so and so...:laugh:

 

[Lynxara]

Then just don't get files from that certain group.

Kind of hard if they're the only ones subbing a given show... and if anything, raws are even more poorly hosted through DDL sources than subs. It's also more possible for a file hosted on a DDL service to expire through inactivity or get removed outright by Toei or other rights holders.

Once something is torrented it only takes one valid seed to make a file available again. Torrents are just better technology when it comes to distributing information and keeping the information out there. Torrenting is also at a point where you can use magnet links instead of trackers, which really makes the process no more dangerous than DDL in terms of divulging IP information.

If your ISP really wants to shut you down for piracy then they can easily do it through DDL. It is absolutely trivial for an ISP to monitor your bandwidth, deduce you are probably downloading encoded video from the filesize, and then work backwards to figure out which Rapidshare link you were downloading.

DDL is only "safer" for now because most ISPs refuse to do this unless a rights holder is willing to file suit against them. Some ISPs frankly aren't willing to identify an IP with the name/address of a specific user unless a company is willing to file suit against them-- otherwise IP only discloses location and provider.

So it's not actually dangerous to let your IP be known on a tracker. It's dangerous to get Internet service through an ISP that will bend over and divulge all of your personal information every time a copyright holder shakes a lawyer in their face. If I was in Keith's shoes, I'd be switching ISPs right about now.