Sage Shinigami
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I'm bored. So, does anyone else enjoy (generally) superhero cartoons? Any of them. DC or Marvel. 1960-2010.
Superhero Cartoon Discussion Thread
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FlashNeko
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I'm mixed on a lot of toons.
My favorites, DC side, are the Fox seasons of Batman (the WB season was... mostly not good with one or two exceptions), Batman Beyond, and Brave and the Bold.
Marvel... I still kind of like the 90s X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons, even if, in retrospect, they actually weren't all that good. I also remember Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends being pretty good (if incredibly 80s) but it's been so many years since I saw it, I can't really remember in any great detail.
Everything else has been kinda meh on both side. I could never really get into Justice League or JLU, I HATED Teen Titans, and most of Marvel's other offerings have been... incredibly forgettable.
My favorites, DC side, are the Fox seasons of Batman (the WB season was... mostly not good with one or two exceptions), Batman Beyond, and Brave and the Bold.
Marvel... I still kind of like the 90s X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons, even if, in retrospect, they actually weren't all that good. I also remember Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends being pretty good (if incredibly 80s) but it's been so many years since I saw it, I can't really remember in any great detail.
Everything else has been kinda meh on both side. I could never really get into Justice League or JLU, I HATED Teen Titans, and most of Marvel's other offerings have been... incredibly forgettable.
Sage Shinigami
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I've never understood that school of thought, as I frequently go months without reading a single comic and still catch up fairly easily. Still, Batman: Brave and the Bold IS awesome.
Actually, B&B's Batman is my definitive version. I'm bored with the Frank Miller clones.
...Spider-Man: TAS is more fun to watch than Batman: TAS. There. I said it, and refuse to take it back.
Sage Shinigami
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Since I'm here, I might as well run down the list:
- Batman: TAS: This was my least favorite cartoon as a kid. I was about 5 or so when it first came on, and it was kinda boring. I definitely liked it better when Robin was in it, and I distinctly recall the episode where Dick finally found Zucco, as that one was my favorite. The series was much better once they added other characters.
- Spider-Man: TAS: Jeez I loved this show as a kid. It fit so many parts of Spider-Man's history into it--it felt like the comic book brought to life as a child. Watching it now, I notice corny bits, but anyone who says it doesn't hold up probably dick-rides B:TAS too hard. Who didn't like the last episode?
- X-Men: TAS: My biggest problem with this series was, as a kid it was hard to keep up. For all of SM: TAS's multi-part episodes, they told complete stories. Miss a single episode of X-Men and you were lost. When it came on Disney XD and aired daily, I loved it a lot more. The art-style was so much like Jim Lee's art, plus the adaptations of classic X-Men stories made it easy to enjoy.
- Superman: TAS: I was never a huge fan of this show. Superman never seemed..."super" to me. It was like, whenever I saw an episode, he was being knocked somewhere, or there was some Kryptonite, or whatever. Maybe it was all in my head. Still, there was something about the series that did not appeal to me--I don't know what. I LOVED the Kyle Rayner episode though.
Batman Beyond: Haven't seen this show in years, but I distinctly recall enjoying it. The only thing that bugged me was how everything apparently went bad for all the other heroes. Everybody hated Bruce, and even Superman turned evil, so that recent "twist" in the current BB comic book isn't that surprising.
Spider-Man: Unlimited: I thought this was a great idea, but apparently everyone else disagreed. I like seeing characters put in new situations, and outfitted with equipment for that situation as well. I loved his Unlimited costume, and the artstyle that came with it. Sucks that it only ran 24 episodes though.
X-Men: Evolution: Once I got over Wolverine and Storm being adults, this cartoon became pretty good to me. People complaining about it should read more comics--the X-Men started out as teens. I do wonder why they ran out of episodes before they could get their story done. Hopefully one day I can watch the whole thing though.
Bah...I'm missing a few, but I'll come back to them. Anyone else care to run down a couple?
- Batman: TAS: This was my least favorite cartoon as a kid. I was about 5 or so when it first came on, and it was kinda boring. I definitely liked it better when Robin was in it, and I distinctly recall the episode where Dick finally found Zucco, as that one was my favorite. The series was much better once they added other characters.
- Spider-Man: TAS: Jeez I loved this show as a kid. It fit so many parts of Spider-Man's history into it--it felt like the comic book brought to life as a child. Watching it now, I notice corny bits, but anyone who says it doesn't hold up probably dick-rides B:TAS too hard. Who didn't like the last episode?
- X-Men: TAS: My biggest problem with this series was, as a kid it was hard to keep up. For all of SM: TAS's multi-part episodes, they told complete stories. Miss a single episode of X-Men and you were lost. When it came on Disney XD and aired daily, I loved it a lot more. The art-style was so much like Jim Lee's art, plus the adaptations of classic X-Men stories made it easy to enjoy.
- Superman: TAS: I was never a huge fan of this show. Superman never seemed..."super" to me. It was like, whenever I saw an episode, he was being knocked somewhere, or there was some Kryptonite, or whatever. Maybe it was all in my head. Still, there was something about the series that did not appeal to me--I don't know what. I LOVED the Kyle Rayner episode though.
Batman Beyond: Haven't seen this show in years, but I distinctly recall enjoying it. The only thing that bugged me was how everything apparently went bad for all the other heroes. Everybody hated Bruce, and even Superman turned evil, so that recent "twist" in the current BB comic book isn't that surprising.
Spider-Man: Unlimited: I thought this was a great idea, but apparently everyone else disagreed. I like seeing characters put in new situations, and outfitted with equipment for that situation as well. I loved his Unlimited costume, and the artstyle that came with it. Sucks that it only ran 24 episodes though.
X-Men: Evolution: Once I got over Wolverine and Storm being adults, this cartoon became pretty good to me. People complaining about it should read more comics--the X-Men started out as teens. I do wonder why they ran out of episodes before they could get their story done. Hopefully one day I can watch the whole thing though.
Bah...I'm missing a few, but I'll come back to them. Anyone else care to run down a couple?
ryuuseipro
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Far as I know, you're missing both Justice League series, Teen Titans, The Batman, and Legion of Superheroes.
ryuuseipro
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As far as Marvel cartoons, my favorite of all time is the Spider-Man 1967 series. The theme song is classic, and the whole series is nothing but fast-paced fun! Great voice work from Canada, and even the limited animation (done in New York by Grantray-Lawrence, and later Krantz Animation) manages to be really colorful and dynamic. Starting from Season 2 onward, we get to the more atmospheric and trippy adventures, courtesy of a young Ralph Bakshi!
I also love the 1966 Marvel Super Heroes series (also by Grantray-Lawrence, with the same Canadian voice talent), with The Incredible Hulk (my favorite), Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Sub-Mariner! It was from these that I always pictured Marvel superhero comics coming to life, with adventures literally lifted from the actual comics! Of course, people will definitely poke fun at the corny dialogue, and limited animation, but these series are still lots of fun to watch, especially watching Jack Kirby's work coming to life.
I also love the 1966 Marvel Super Heroes series (also by Grantray-Lawrence, with the same Canadian voice talent), with The Incredible Hulk (my favorite), Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Sub-Mariner! It was from these that I always pictured Marvel superhero comics coming to life, with adventures literally lifted from the actual comics! Of course, people will definitely poke fun at the corny dialogue, and limited animation, but these series are still lots of fun to watch, especially watching Jack Kirby's work coming to life.
Skyknight
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MARTYY JANNNNNE
I agree in that I've been saying Batman: TAS has been overrated for years, but it's one of those statements that kind of gets you shot if you're not careful, it's still a great series, but as said, it's dick-rode too much
I loved Spider-Man Unlimited, it recently came out on DVD over in the UK...plot was a little too complex but there's good sauce in there.
SamuraiEchidna
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I've seen many Marvel and DC cartoons, both on and off TV. I like many, didn't care about others, and there are a small few I actually hate (I might get specific about all that later, if anyone cares).
But I once made a revelation about Batman, and this was before The Dark Knight was in theaters. The major problem with Batman shows is that the police are often made to look like incapable idiots just to make Batman look good. Just about everything from Adam West's version to The Batman has been making the same mistakes. The police are not idiots, people. Ever see CSI, Law & Order, or any shows like that? The police have ways of investigating and solving crimes too. They aren't just gun-wielding idiots who kick a can around and eat donuts when they don't know what to do next.
I liked The Dark Knight because it had Batman working with the police. It showed how resourceful they can be as well. It did not devalue them just to make Batman look good. And while I don't like Batman B&B, too much campiness for my tastes, I will applaud it for keeping the police out of the equation most, if not all, the time. I'm just saying, it gets really bad when you watch a show, a crime can easily be stopped or solved, Batman ends up being the only one who saves the day, and you are left asking yourself "And the Police couldn't handle this, why exactly?" I forget if other super hero shows have done the same thing, but come on people. They are called super villains for a reason, because they are just too much for the police or conventional means to handle.
But I once made a revelation about Batman, and this was before The Dark Knight was in theaters. The major problem with Batman shows is that the police are often made to look like incapable idiots just to make Batman look good. Just about everything from Adam West's version to The Batman has been making the same mistakes. The police are not idiots, people. Ever see CSI, Law & Order, or any shows like that? The police have ways of investigating and solving crimes too. They aren't just gun-wielding idiots who kick a can around and eat donuts when they don't know what to do next.
I liked The Dark Knight because it had Batman working with the police. It showed how resourceful they can be as well. It did not devalue them just to make Batman look good. And while I don't like Batman B&B, too much campiness for my tastes, I will applaud it for keeping the police out of the equation most, if not all, the time. I'm just saying, it gets really bad when you watch a show, a crime can easily be stopped or solved, Batman ends up being the only one who saves the day, and you are left asking yourself "And the Police couldn't handle this, why exactly?" I forget if other super hero shows have done the same thing, but come on people. They are called super villains for a reason, because they are just too much for the police or conventional means to handle.
