Spider-Man: The Clone Saga

[Tom Constantine]

Can't people just sit and enjoy comics without stalking the writers and questioning every single move and decision made like it's a **** you to the reader.

Makes life simpler y'know.

 

[Skyknight]

It's not that I don't enjoy comics (Bendis has a direction I don't agree with currently in Ultimate Comics Spider-Man, but unlike the BND writers, has made HIS new status quoe enjoyable and insightful without sabotauging the characters or alienating the readers), it's just that I don't enjoy badly written, half-assed comics.

Marvel basicly BOAST everything they do is a "**** you" to the reader. Have you seen how Slott and Wacker take time out of thier responsibilties to troll message boards and describe long-term fans as negative types? You wouldnt have seen any of this under Stan, Shooter or DeFalco, they respected the fans.

 

[VengeanceGOD]

There's a vast difference between not liking the direction a comic has taken, and being a nitpicker who hates all comics.

 

[MattComix]

Which is weird seeing it mesh with interesting stuff like Dark Reign.

Dark Reign is interesting? It's just another big bloated grimdark event.

 

[Izzy]

The hacks lazily cobbled together various scans of interior art and comic covers (yes, COMIC COVERS) for those flashbacks without doing the research, further proof they don't care anymore about the franchise let alone the characters.

I wanna be surprised that they'd do something like that, yet somehow I'm not.

Can't people just sit and enjoy comics without stalking the writers and questioning every single move and decision made like it's a **** you to the reader.

Makes life simpler y'know.

When stories like "Sins Past" and "One More Day" come along it's quite easy to question some of the direction writers take the characters in. Both those stories among other recent stuff read like two giant middle fingers aimed strraight at anyone whose read a Spidey comic as a kid. Having the Editor in Chief of the company call you an idiot for disliking a story even cements it in regards to OMD.

...

I think I almost started to breathe fire!

It's not that I don't enjoy comics (Bendis has a direction I don't agree with currently in Ultimate Comics Spider-Man, but unlike the BND writers, has made HIS new status quoe enjoyable and insightful without sabotauging the characters or alienating the readers), it's just that I don't enjoy badly written, half-assed comics.

I am very interested in how things well turn out in the book. Ultimate Spidey has pretty much been my go-to book for good stories in my opinion since the mess that was a good chunk of JMS' run on ASM. While I had my gripes with certain turns the book took things usually always ended up better due to said turn. My only gripe currently is we only got 2-3 actual issues that had the only worthwhile incarnation of Carnage in the character's entire history.

Dark Reign is interesting? It's just another big bloated grimdark event.

:laugh:

 

[VengeanceGOD]

While Dark Reign is a massive crossover, it's one of the more interesting ones in the last few years as it's had, you know, consequences for the characters and interesting and different things coming out of it.

 

[Izzy]

I believe I read all but one issue of the Sinister Spider-Man mini tied to the event, it was fun stuff IMO. Though I never got the point of Gargan needing anything to make the symbiote smaller or any of that, I always figured the symbiote could take a smaller form by default, when was it mandated that Venom had to always be giganimous regardless of who's hosting it?

 

[Skyknight]

While Dark Reign is a massive crossover, it's one of the more interesting ones in the last few years as it's had, you know, consequences for the characters and interesting and different things coming out of it.

I liked Dark Reign better when D.C did it first, when Lex Luthor was President.:sweat:

Dark Reign's sole success for me was Bendis finding his feet in 616 and writing Dark Avengers. They unfortunatly dropped the ball on The Sinister Spider-Man. What could have been the launching pad for a fresh new version of the character that wasnt Ben Reily and one fans have come to like universally was handed over to some idiot who's stuck in the 90s and wanted to write Gargan like Brock.

DA, to me, is pretty much ASM until it concludes, and I hope that never happens. It never ceases to amuse how every fresh Spider-Man story in 616 the last fifteen years have been without Peter being in the bloody coustume.

 

[Izzy]

I liked Dark Reign better when D.C did it first, when Lex Luthor was President.:sweat:

:laugh: That's my true gripe with it, they made Norman Osborn into even more of a Lex Luthor Expy than before. I still think he should of stayed dead, even more so than before this story.

Dark Reign's sole success for me was Bendis finding his feet in 616 and writing Dark Avengers. They unfortunatly dropped the ball on The Sinister Spider-Man. What could have been the launching pad for a fresh new version of the character that wasnt Ben Reily and one fans have come to like universally was handed over to some idiot who's stuck in the 90s and wanted to write Gargan like Brock.

It could have been a lot better I'll admit, I found it amusing nonetheless. Sometimes I think a good chunk of people forget that Eddie's not Venom anymore anyways, a good chunk of the Spidey merchandise proves this.

 

[Izzy]

Issue 3 came ot today, seems we're around the point were Maximum Clonage ended.