So...how 'bout that health care?

[Lynxara]

hawaii has had a law in which employers were mandated to provide health insurance to full time workers since 1975 ...where the hell was the rest of the nation on this? -_-

The rest of the country is governed by similar laws. The problem only starts with people who can't find jobs for an extended period. Under the Obama plan, care for these people would be subsidized.

 

[KingRanger]

The rest of the country is governed by similar laws. The problem only starts with people who can't find jobs for an extended period. Under the Obama plan, care for these people would be subsidized.

Sure they have to offer it, but that doesn't mean they have to make it easy for their employees to get. Take wal-mart for example. Also why is it that some people are in this thread and not really taking part. They are just shooting in stupid one liners that have nothing to do with the topic at all.

Taken from http://wakeupwalmart.com/facts/
Wal-Mart and Health Care

Download the Wal-Mart and Health Care flyer - PDF

Wal-Mart's health care plan fails to cover nearly 700,000 employees

* Wal-Mart reports that its health insurance covers only 50.2% of their employees. Wal-Mart has nearly 1.4 million US employees. [UFCW analysis of Wal-Mart health plan, March 2008]

Wal-Mart's health care plan is too costly

* If an average full-time Wal-Mart employee chooses the least expensive family coverage plan, they would have to spend over 20% of their income before the health insurance provided any reimbursement.[ EBRI Issue Brief October 2007]

* An average full time Wal-Mart Associate faces a serious family health issue. They have to pay the entire out-of-pocket maximum for the least expensive health plan, which adds up to pay 53% of their income. [ EBRI Issue Brief October 2007]

Wal-Mart's health insurance falls far short of the industry average

* On average, large firms (1,000 or more workers) insure 65% of their employees. If Wal-Mart was to minimally reach the average coverage rate, Wal-Mart would cover an additional 210,000 workers. [ EBRI Issue Brief October 2007]

Wal-Mart forces employees to rely on public assistance to cover health care costs

* In 21 of 23 states where data is available, Wal-Mart forces more employees to rely on taxpayer-funded health care than any other employer. ["Disclosures of Employers Whose Workers and Their Dependents are Using State Health Insurance Programs, Good Jobs First, June 26, 2007]

Wal-Mart admits public assistance is a "better value"

* Despite over $12 billion in profits, President and CEO Lee Scott admits, "In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value - with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums". [Transcript Lee Scott Speech, 4 May 2005]

 

[Quark]

Lol what?

 

[Quark]

Take wal-mart for example. Also why is it that some people are in this thread and not really taking part. They are just shooting in stupid one liners that have nothing to do with the topic at all.

Uh oh, back to editing our posts I see. Please elaborate on your Wal Mart example, I have got to hear this.

 

[Quark]

As it turns out, i've actually had to read over Wal-Marts insurance plans less than a week ago. And while i'm sure it's very tough work copying and pasting information from someone else's website, you might want to consider actually familiarizing yourself with what you use as an 'example.'

 

[Bigdog]

More like end of America. I remembered somewhere last year, this Russian professor predicted that we're towards end of America in the second half of 2010 and that is, President Obama would declare martial law here. Let me go and find the exact map of what this would be looking like, this is what he's predicting, bigdog.

Sounds cool. I'll just move to Canada anyways. I find his prediction trhat Atlantic America joining the EU ironic considering they are mostly European there anyways. It just sucks considering the fact If i want to go to popular vacationing sites like California , Florida or Louisiana in the near future, i'll need a passport because my state Michigan is gonna be in the Central NA Republic.

Hope that doesn't happen. Otherwise, I'm takin' the Central NA Republic and makin' it into an empire and reconquer the other territories into a new America and start a global takeover ala Global Roma. Anyways, I knew this was gonna happen eventually since all republics fail ,look at Rome's . It only lasted two centuries before it became an empire .

 

[Bolt]

I'm all for a public option, and I think this is a step in the right direction, but honestly, I think Obama started taking the healthcare reform a little too personally, and as a result we got a watered-down version of something that can only work by being more or less absolute. This bill isn't really going to change much, it's just going to piss more people off and give the Rightys fuel for the fire.

 

[toranoko]

Losing the public option was irritating.

And wasn't the public option what everyone was bitching about?

That's what annoys me. I don't pay too much attention to politics (I didn't even know the public option was removed until I heard the coverage of the vote passing.) But the public option was taken out for the sake of bipartisanship, and not even a single Republican voted yes?

Again, I don't pay attention to politics. But from the outside, it just looks like they're trying to stick it to the democrats. It's nice to feel that our country's leaders are like high schoolers.

 

[Lynxara]

Yeah, the Republicans sacked making policy here so they could play politics instead. They were convinced they could break Obama if they could just stop health care.

They didn't. What I'm hearing policy-wise right now is that the Republicans have taken a big hit for their trouble in moderate states, while it's likely to make red-leaning states lean more read.

The US is governed from the middle, though, so the Republicans have kind of met their Waterloo. If the Tea Party picks up any more steam, they're boned.

 

[MaraJade]

See the options presented above. If you're under 27, you can go on your parent's plan. If you're over, get to paying either completely on your own or subsidized through the government.

For most school institutions, if you're a student, the school is required to furnish some level of healthcare - private or school's own to you.