So...how 'bout that health care?
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Medicaid gives money back to the state, who then reinberce doctors for the patients. In 2014, the Government/Medicaid is no longer giving the states money, meaning the state you live in has to raise taxes to pay the doctors. For example, where Medicaid/Medicare pay, say $65 to the doctor for his services, will be cut back to say $50. But a doctor will be unable to bill you that $15 and are out that money.
Their malpractice and other insurance rates will not be cut, meaning they'll end up losing money. You'll see places hire more and more nurses, and that's who you'll see more often then an actual doctor. More and more doctors will quit being doctors and less people will become doctors, with more and more people hitting clinics or hospitals.
Their malpractice and other insurance rates will not be cut, meaning they'll end up losing money. You'll see places hire more and more nurses, and that's who you'll see more often then an actual doctor. More and more doctors will quit being doctors and less people will become doctors, with more and more people hitting clinics or hospitals.
Quark
Bandito Shake Cometh
Really? I wanna know who's stopping him. Besides himself.
Skiks
Member
More taxes isn't an issue as you do save money on health bills if you are really covered. I think the whole problem with actual health care is that people use it on small things they can pay for. If it was saved for emergencies only you'd have a more solid base and health care and doctors would lose less money.
KingRanger
Banned
That stuff sounds like the nutty nonsense you hear from people like Glenn Beck.
MrMonk
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The hospitals and doctors have to bill you that $15 because those without insurance go to the emergency room and get help for catastrophic procedures and then don't pay. And so, the only way to recoup costs is to raise the rates on procedures and health care for those that do pay.
For example: I have 5 patients. 3 have healthcare, and 2 do not. The procedure costs $100. I want to keep my hospital running so now the procedure costs $125. But I know that 2 of those patients will probably not pay me. So what do I do as a hospital? I split the $125 I would've gotten from the 2 patients without insurance across the payments of the 3 I know will pay. $125 x 2 patients who won't pay x 3 patients who will = $83 per paying patient. So now I'm charging $208 for the procedure, even though it only costs me $100 to perform.
This is what people are talking about when they say you're already paying for those without healthcare.
This isn't even going into the number one reason people file for bankruptcy. Medical bills. Even people with actual jobs essentially cross their fingers and hope themselves or a loved one doesn't get horribly sick. And when they file, do you think the hospital gets it's money?
Now, force everyone to get healthcare, what happens?
This is a very basic view of the entire thing, as there are tons and tons of hidden costs (medical receptionists to deal with insurance companies and their hoops) on top of all this jazz.
He exists in a administrative and legislative vacuum? I didn't know that.
Quark
Bandito Shake Cometh
Yeah, except not at all really.
KingRanger
Banned
If you guys think this health care plan will cause the US to become little countries separated by the country that takes them over... Well perhaps you have other problems? Maybe this health care could benefit you for treatment?
The executive branch can't really dance around, making and passing bills as it pleases. I think Congress does that, though I think most of the time they're just dancing.
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