Sh15uya - Talkback

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Just got done watching this. I watched the first four episodes as Mishicorp released them (well, I found Mishicorp's fansubs right after 03 was released, so, something like that), and then wound up accumulating them and watching the rest of the show yesterday and today.

1) Wow, this REALLY feels like someone smashed the Matrix together with Battle Royale. Or, more precisely, like someone watched Battle Royale and decided to make exactly the same kind of allegorical commentary, only after they mainlined the Matrix trilogy. (Oh, interesting note: in reading the English translation of the original Densha threads, apparently The Matrix -- even just the original movie -- is really opaque to Japanese people, near as I can gather. And I thought some anime was obscure.)

2) Martial arts FTW. And great usage of CGI, too -- almost all of the fights between Peace and Ema rocked hard.

3) That ending SUCKED. We don't even know what happened to Professor Ootomo, which seems pretty damned important. The ending after the ending mitigated it, but it also made me go, "So, WTF was the point?" At least, to some degree.

4) I spent every episode of the series until we saw absolute confirmation that Tsuyoshi is intended to be a male (as in, when we saw him in his school uniform) waiting for an "OMFG GIRL" moment. Never happened.

5) Conversely, I was a bit disappointed, on a perv level, that we never got to see Tsuyoshi getting physical with either Ema or Asagi :disappoin I mean, it was a male character, even if he was played by a girl...

6) Overall? Damn, that was cool, even if the ending was a let-down.

And there's a manga, too. My wife is annoyed, now, because she probably could've gotten it from the Kinokuniya (or whatever the name of the chain is) back in Singapore in the original Japanese. Anyone know of a scanlation project? (I'm kinda hoping for more depth -- I'd love to know more about Ema's background, in particular, and what made her snap and go nuts. Given that it only appears to be one volume, though, I'm cognizant that it probably isn't there.)

Also, while I appreciate Mishicorp doing the subs, can someone please teach their encoder how to, um, encode? Seriously, it's really not that hard to hit a consistent file size -- if those monkeys* at TVN can do it, I'm sure anyone can.

*I'm not actually certain everyone at TVN is a monkey, but KingRanger doesn't provide a terribly positive example, to put it extremely effing mildly.
 
laudre said:
1) Wow, this REALLY feels like someone smashed the Matrix together with Battle Royale. Or, more precisely, like someone watched Battle Royale and decided to make exactly the same kind of allegorical commentary, only after they mainlined the Matrix trilogy. (Oh, interesting note: in reading the English translation of the original Densha threads, apparently The Matrix -- even just the original movie -- is really opaque to Japanese people, near as I can gather. And I thought some anime was obscure.)

Sh15uya reminded me more of The Thirteenth Floor then the Matrix except it was better then The Thirteeth Floor and different the Matrix.

laudre said:
3) That ending SUCKED. We don't even know what happened to Professor Ootomo, which seems pretty damned important. The ending after the ending mitigated it, but it also made me go, "So, WTF was the point?" At least, to some degree.

Well, (SPOILER)...

[hide]Ootomo was killed by the Chairman and did say that if something happened to the body in the real world then the mind would die in the virtual world. The manga ending is different then the live action series.[/hide]

laudre said:
And there's a manga, too. My wife is annoyed, now, because she probably could've gotten it from the Kinokuniya (or whatever the name of the chain is) back in Singapore in the original Japanese. Anyone know of a scanlation project? (I'm kinda hoping for more depth -- I'd love to know more about Ema's background, in particular, and what made her snap and go nuts. Given that it only appears to be one volume, though, I'm cognizant that it probably isn't there.)
As far as I know we're not doing a scanlation project. Puffy does own the manga and I ordered it from Kinokuniya.

The manga is way more detailed then the live action series. We do learn more about Ema's terrorist acts.

laudre said:
Also, while I appreciate Mishicorp doing the subs, can someone please teach their encoder how to, um, encode? Seriously, it's really not that hard to hit a consistent file size -- if those monkeys* at TVN can do it, I'm sure anyone can.

The encoder would be me. ;) Yes, I know the first AVIs from the first two DVDs were off and I know I forgot to deinterlace one of the two DVDs (or was it both?) What do you expect from not having encoded in six months and having learned encoding from KR? LOL
 
Mikazuki said:
Sh15uya reminded me more of The Thirteenth Floor then the Matrix except it was better then The Thirteeth Floor and different the Matrix.[.QUOTE]

I've never seen The Thirteenth Floor. Or eXistenZ, for that matter. I'll have to take your word for it on that.

The manga ending is different then the live action series.

Is it a bit more complete and satisfying than the LA ending? I'd hope so.

The manga is way more detailed then the live action series. We do learn more about Ema's terrorist acts.

Acts, plural? Interesting. I'd like to know her motivations for what she did, personally.

The encoder would be me. ;) Yes, I know the first AVIs from the first two DVDs were off and I know I forgot to deinterlace one of the two DVDs (or was it both?) What do you expect from not having encoded in six months and having learned encoding from KR? LOL

Well, if you learned from KR, that would explain a lot ;). I've had conversations with ol' Kingy, and ... well, in six-pack-terms, he seems to have about four cans, and is missing the little plastic thingy that holds them together.
 
laudre said:
I've never seen The Thirteenth Floor. Or eXistenZ, for that matter. I'll have to take your word for it on that.

Basically The Thirteenth Floor is about...
[hide]A virtual city within a virtual city. The plot starts off with a scientist trying to perfect virtual reality. He gets accused of murder, in his world, and ends up in the virtual world he (helped? I can't remember) created. In the end he finds out that his world isn't the real world either but also a virtual world.[/hide]

Is it a bit more complete and satisfying than the LA ending? I'd hope so.

As I said, I'm still waiting for my copy as I recently ordered it. Puffy is the one whose given me info about the manga including stuff about Ema, stuff about the Lovegen, etc, etc. Peace looks radically different then Mark's Peace.

Well, if you learned from KR, that would explain a lot ;). I've had conversations with ol' Kingy, and ... well, in six-pack-terms, he seems to have about four cans, and is missing the little plastic thingy that holds them together.

LMAO. That has to be the funniest analogy I've read about a person. Thank you for making me laugh. I needed a good laugh.
 
y did they get a girl to play Shouta anyways? gosh, seeing a girl play a guy in a Jap show really shows you how much Jap people like to draw feminine looking guys in manga and anime. ewwwwwww.....anyways, does anyone here have a wallpaper of Shibuya? i'm gonna make the 12 eps into a DVD for myself and i need a wallpaper to get a nice menu going. thanks guys!
 
*casts Raise 2 on the Talk Up thread*

So I saw the sub of episode one thanks to TV Nihon. Um... very weird. I am getting the next two episodes but Im not sure if this series will hook me for too much longer. The best part was the Toku-Suit-Casshern action at the end. That was some sweet action. And the ending was pretty interesting.

Yeah I honestly couldnt tell if Shouta was a girl or a guy. So is it a guy character but girl actor or what?
 
"Shouta" is a Male Character, but is played a Female actor. I got some information(Name, And a Link to a Picture of her not dressed like "Shouta") hidden somewhere in a IRC log file somewhere, but I think some other board members will be able to give you more accurate infromation.
 
GrnPsychoGarren said:
So is it a guy character but girl actor or what?

A male played by a female, an old gender reversal role thing. I thought that was the only inspired bit of the show.
 
just finished this it was a good show and my 6th full toku series

but wtf was the ending, was the piece they killed the ultimate one

the ending felt very no conculsive could sum one run this by me
 

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