Riders Series' Direction

[Wing Saber]

By introducing a bunch of parallel timelines that sometimes went out of their way to have nothing at all to do with the series they were supposedly about? I just don't see how that actually fixes anything, Decade just felt like a lot of fanservice meant mostly for people who liked the suits and fights.

Despite how the show was handled, it reconnected the Rider Series with each other.

 

[Khaiden]

I think we all have different opinions on what a Rider is, maybe we should define that first before we all jump in.

Here, this is what Shotaro Ishimori had in mind with Kamen Rider. This is what it's all about.

 

[Tokuboy]

It notably ends with Kuuga. I'm not surprised.

 

[Khaiden]

Again, I'm not saying Riders from Agito upwards aren't Kamen Rider, I'm just pointing the fact that the idea of Kamen Rider was that, and that only. After Ishimori-sama's passing, they did Kuuga based on an idea he already intended to create, but everything from 2001 to later years starts moving to another path, to something that was not his vision.

 

[Aoi Kurenai]

Kuuga wouldn't matter, though, since those early ideas barely resemble what ended up in the show. And you are giving Ishinomori a little too much credit when it comes to this, Touru Hirayama probably had a great deal of input than Ishinomori in the first five series. I've read that the only two series that can really be considered Ishinomori's babies are Black and Black RX.

It notably ends with Kuuga. I'm not surprised.

Weeeell the owner of that website is notorious for pretty much hating 99% of modern tokusatsu.

 

[Rider Hero]

Well, I really don't see how Decade connects anything.

It introduced us to a whole set of AU realities for kamen rider in name. Each of the Heisei series is more complex than the superficial description given by Decade.

Personally, I preferred the varying stories that KR has to offer, compared to say Super Sentai which stuck more to its formula than KR has.

 

[Hidden Masta]

Kuuga wouldn't matter, though, since those early ideas barely resemble what ended up in the show. And you are giving Ishinomori a little too much credit when it comes to this, Touru Hirayama probably had a great deal of input than Ishinomori in the first five series. I've read that the only two series that can really be considered Ishinomori's babies are Black and Black RX.
Weeeell the owner of that website is notorious for pretty much hating 99% of modern tokusatsu.

Is the 1% Den-O? And where did you read all that stuff about Ishinomori? Sounds interesting.

 

[Wing Saber]

Well, I really don't see how Decade connects anything.

It introduced us to a whole set of AU realities for kamen rider in name. Each of the Heisei series is more complex than the superficial description given by Decade.

Personally, I preferred the varying stories that KR has to offer, compared to say Super Sentai which stuck more to its formula than KR has.

Actually it rebooted the series by getting everything back under the same roof. As I mentioned, everything from Ryuki to Kiva took different directions thus KR's true meaning got lost somewhere in that shuffle, beacuse Toei got carried away experimenting with new ideas.

 

[Hidden Masta]

I always thought they were in the same world. Then Decade came along and everything I knew was a lie. I like to think there are just infinite worlds and one of them has Ichigo - Double all in the same Japan with all the stories that we've seen in the past years.

 

[Lynxara]

It reconnected the series by getting everything back under the same roof.

But it didn't. It made up new versions of the characters in the suits and then put them in the same roof. A lot of those characters were nothing like the originals and we only saw them for a little over two episodes. Why should anyone into the actual Heisei TV shows care about that?

More to the point, Decade didn't connect them in any meaningful way. So what if the suits have appeared onscreen together? That just means that Toei hired enough suit actors to film those scenes. You can't say they all live on the same Earth, which is how the Showa continuity worked.