Overdrive Prime Needs a New Car... And Your Help.

So in yet another example of why 2009 can kiss my ass, my Saturn's been given a death sentence by the mechanic. Or rather, there's a blown bearing in my transmission, and I have 3 options: rebuild the transmission and replace the clutch for $2,000, replace the transmission with a used one and replace the clutch for $2,100, or just keep driving my car into the fuckin' dirt and then donate it for a $1,500 tax write-off. I'm takin' door number three, since there's no damn way I'm sinking another 2 grand into a car that I've already spent a thousand dollars trying to rehab this year.

**** you, American car makers, and your ****-ass cars that don't even last 9 damn years. My wife's Toyota is 12 years old, and aside from its missing hubcaps and a messy interior, the thing is still like new. She changes the oil every 6,000 miles or so, we've replaced the tires twice and the battery once (though in retrospect we didn't need to). Other than that, the car has required zero maintenance.

So now I'm looking for a Japanese car. They're made in the USA anyway, so anyone who gives me **** about not being patriotic can help themselves to a mouth full of knuckles.

After much deliberation, I've decided that I want something about the same size as my old Saturn, that can haul my kayaks, has a hatchback, and costs less than $20,000. This is ideally going to be our primary car for the next 10-12 years, and hopefully when Patty's Corolla gives up the ghost in another 8 years or whatever, we'll be able to be a 1 car family. We've looked at new and used cars; to get a car that has a solid 10 years left in it, we really wouldn't be saving any money to get a used car unless we get a Toyota. If we were buying a more expensive car it might be worth it, but when the new ones start at 16-20 grand, there's not much difference.

We've narrowed it down from a list of 12 prospective cars to:
Subaru Impreza Outback Sport (2009 or 2010), 5 speed manual
Mazda 3 Sport (hatchback) (2010) 6 speed manual
Toyota Corolla S (2008-2010), 5 speed manual
Toyota Prius (2006-2010), Automatic 'cause they don't make 'em with a manual transmission :(

The Mazda 3 was definitely the most comfortable and had the best laid-out interior and ride, and the Subaru Impreza Outback Sport was right on it's heels. The Corolla is probably out of the picture, even though I think its engine is like unto a tiny god of endurance, but the Prius is extremely attractive to me as I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing $5 gas by 2012, and it is amazingly roomy and rides very nice. The Prius isn't quite as fun to drive as the Mazda 3 or Outback Sport, but it's got a surprising amount of zip, and actually had a larger back seat area than the Mazda 3 and Outback sport. Ultimately, I think it's going to come down to which car is more cost effective over the course of its life, and that'll probably be the Prius. I gotta run some numbers and take a few more test drives.

What do you guys think? Best hatchback under $22,000?
 
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^Seems like that should get its own thread... I don't hit up this thread a lot tho. Is this what you guys talk about in here? Specific things for a length that'd normally get its own thread?

For the record, great choices all around and I can totally see you in any one of those, ODP.

I'm sorry to hear about Blue Thunder tho... :(
 
In terms of long-term durability, I'd have to say that between the options you've got, your best option would actually be the Corolla. However as you've found out yourself, it isn't the most comfortable of rides, which is a real shame because if Toyota would smarten up and just tweak a couple of things to improve the finish of the interior, that thing's sales numbers would shoot through the roof.

Since you live in Milwakee, you and Keith probably put up with monster winters with tons of snow much like how I do here in Winnipeg. On that note alone, it's hard to beat the Subaru for it's all-wheel drive capability. It makes a major difference when it's the first major snow of the season and you're safe in your car while you're watching other drivers playing curling with theirs.

Similarly, on that note, I can't help but wonder about how well (or rather, how poorly) that electric/hybrid engine on the Prius (more precisely, the battery on which it's so dependant) would hold up in the middle of Jan./Feb. when it's -40 degrees and you need to drive through a foot of fresh snowfall to get to work. If you invest in a good set of winter tires, you might luck out if the Prius' gas engine has decent torque.


Overall, IMO, I'd have to vote for the Subaru.
 
^Seems like that should get its own thread... I don't hit up this thread a lot tho. Is this what you guys talk about in here? Specific things for a length that'd normally get its own thread?

For the record, great choices all around and I can totally see you in any one of those, ODP.

I'm sorry to hear about Blue Thunder tho... :(
Me too, hoss, me too. Sorry for the
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- I just started on a rant and wound up looking for advice. If it makes sense to split this convo off from the thread, please do so!

Bolt, while I'm all for sharing a well-made Swede with my wife, I hear that the used ones can be high-maintenance and give you some unwelcome surprises.

JFC- I hear you on the Corolla. If they made a hatch back version with a little more attention to comfort, it would probably be on top of our list. The Prius actually has a lot more guts than you'd expect - the 2010 one especially has remarkable pickup for a car of its size and the handling is much improved over the first and second gens. I still want to check out a winter driving report on them, though. I'm kind of lucky in that if we get 12 inches of snow dumped on us, Patty will usually have a snow day and I can remote in from home. So while snow and ice factor into my decision, I don't need anything that can crash through blizzard conditions on a regular basis.
 
Up to you beanpie, and no need for apology on length. Type as much as ya want.

I was just saying you might get more due attention and advice if this was on its own.

Not being a car man and more for visuals... I can easily see you in any one of those cars. The Mazada >looks< like the best successor and evolution of Blue Thunder tho.
 
OverdrivePrime said:
Bolt, while I'm all for sharing a well-made Swede with my wife, I hear that the used ones can be high-maintenance and give you some unwelcome surprises.

Hmmm, maybe. I have a used, 2005 S60 and she's been nothing but a treat to drive since I got her in 2007. Haven't had any unwelcome surprises yet aside from a "Check Engine" light that I finally realized stays on all the time for some reason and that I don't actually need to get out on the interstate and check the engine. :170:

They might not be big enough for the kind of stuff you'd need in a vehicle, but they're great cars, very safe, and are just about the most well-balanced I've driven in terms of speed, turn radius, size, maneuverability, etc.
 
Funny you bring up buying a new car, cause I was just taking a testdrive last night of my possible new car.

While I don't know really anything about the cars ODP has narrowed down, I like these two just based purely on astetics. Subaru Impreza Outback Sport & Toyota Corolla S.
If snow is also a factor, Subaru's eat snow like there's no tomorrow! My sister used to have an old Subaru and that thing was awesome in snow.

I'm however staying with American Muscle.
I present the possible future Barracade!
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