Judge Faiz
I am the law
I've seen that how much it costs to be Batman thing for a few days now. I seriously think some of those amounts are just WAY too high and pulled out of thin air.
Nolan Batman #3: The Dark Knight Rises
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Red Tyranno Ranger
Tyrannosaurus!
Actually these days Catwoman is meant to be his" one true love"
I'd prefer if they reboot it in about 5-6 yrs so they can focus on Supes for now and I liked how this trilogy ended.
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chronoxiong
Digital Artist
This movie was intense, serious and pretty damn good. I was really wondering how this movie was going to play out. The plot was pretty cool and I thought Bane was badass. I have never seen this interpretation of Bane before and loved it. He was much better than the "Batman and Robin" version. But then, the plot twist happened in the end and although it does make sense as to how and where he knows to go, it made him not as badass as before. Instead, it made him look like a puppet who was being controlled by a "higher power." I really did not like the way how he died too. It felt anti-climatic. It also reminded me of how Jet Li died in Lethal Weapon 4. Such a kickass villain but died because of a gun.
Anyways, the performances were all great. Christian Bale did a great job of being conflicted by his actions as Batman, then trying to become a hero again and then recovering from being damaged by Bane. He is going to be perhaps the most memorable Bruce Wayne now. Sorry Michael Keaton. Anne Hathaway was impressive as Selina Kyle too. I thought she was going to be annoying but she was badass and did commit too many heel/face turns in one movie. Nice to see those curves of hers in that costume. Her ass won't beat Scarlett Johansson though. The added "Inception" cast members did great as well. Tom Hardy was sick as Bane and he looked so huge. He didn't look that huge in Inception. Gordon-Levitt was great as Blake too. I liked his character and was shocked at the evolution of his character in the end. I did not see that coming. Marion Cotillard did great as well and I was not expecting her twist at all. Michael Caine's appearance was basically a cameo appearance though. Cilian Murphy made me laugh with his cameo also. Nice to see him as he brought continuity to the trilogy.
In conclusion, I DO NOT want to rank this movie higher than "The Avengers." I loved Avengers and thought that was a revolutionary film by bringing multiple heroes together in one film. Also, I've always been a Marvel fan so I feel like I have to side with that film. The "Dark Knight Rises" was a great film and I enjoyed it a lot. It is worthy to be one of the best films in recent memory. I want to put it as equal to "The Avengers" for best movie of the summer though. It's too tough to choose one over the other
Anyways, the performances were all great. Christian Bale did a great job of being conflicted by his actions as Batman, then trying to become a hero again and then recovering from being damaged by Bane. He is going to be perhaps the most memorable Bruce Wayne now. Sorry Michael Keaton. Anne Hathaway was impressive as Selina Kyle too. I thought she was going to be annoying but she was badass and did commit too many heel/face turns in one movie. Nice to see those curves of hers in that costume. Her ass won't beat Scarlett Johansson though. The added "Inception" cast members did great as well. Tom Hardy was sick as Bane and he looked so huge. He didn't look that huge in Inception. Gordon-Levitt was great as Blake too. I liked his character and was shocked at the evolution of his character in the end. I did not see that coming. Marion Cotillard did great as well and I was not expecting her twist at all. Michael Caine's appearance was basically a cameo appearance though. Cilian Murphy made me laugh with his cameo also. Nice to see him as he brought continuity to the trilogy.
In conclusion, I DO NOT want to rank this movie higher than "The Avengers." I loved Avengers and thought that was a revolutionary film by bringing multiple heroes together in one film. Also, I've always been a Marvel fan so I feel like I have to side with that film. The "Dark Knight Rises" was a great film and I enjoyed it a lot. It is worthy to be one of the best films in recent memory. I want to put it as equal to "The Avengers" for best movie of the summer though. It's too tough to choose one over the other
Bolt
boogie woogie feng shui
I recently had the opportunity to see The Dark Knight Rises, and, to be frank, I was considerably disappointed. With The Dark Knight, Nolan showed that he was capable of incorporating his patented sleek, hyper-dramatic directing style into the more fantastic comic book foundation of the Batman mythos in a way that allowed the distinct approaches to compliment one another, but with Rises I felt like the makers were resting on the success and acclaim of their previous blockbuster, and put little effort into making the conclusion of the trilogy stand out or surpass the second movie of the series in terms of storytelling, visual style or originality.
The plot was tenuously held together, a string of arbitrary events (almost all of them occurring in broad daylight--has no one ever actually read a Batman comic?) mostly culled from 30s adventure serials and with no more impetus, serving to incite Bane's martial authority over Gotham and lure Bruce Wayne back to his guise as Batman. Bane himself existed in a state somewhere between unique re-envisioning and unintentional joke, with a voice and overall demeanor that is as baffling as it is pathetically comical and no other special traits that make him outstanding as a villain (they already played the diabolical mastermind card with Ra's Al-Ghul in Begins, and it would be futile to try to top The Joker as the enigmatic, senseless force of nihilistic destruction, so what did Bane have left? An above-average physique and an above-average mind for plotting criminal endeavors).
But the most grievous sin was making Bruce Wayne such a passive figure. The guy had literally no motivation in this film, no reason to want to return from his life as a recluse to rescue a city that fears and despises him. They shot themselves in the foot by spending more than half the film painting him as calloused and indifferent, then marking the second half with an abrupt about-face in not only his driving purpose but his entire personality, and expecting the audience to accept it unquestioningly (or maybe they did; they certainly seem to have done so thus far). Bale can grimace and scowl and flap his cape around, but he just isn't Batman. Batman has an alter ego, and an ethical code, and a highly-specialized, masterfully refined skill set for a compelling reason. Bale's Batman has them simply because a film translation of the character requires them in some form, and they are never addressed or utilized beyond a bare minimum level.
With Rises, Nolan has taken a narrative premise that belongs in a 45-minute crime scene investigation drama and transplanted it into a landscape that should have been more grave and epic than ever after the Joker's rampage in The Dark Knight, filled it full of lethargic characters with lackadaisical motives who act nothing like their comic counterparts dictate they should and expect moviegoers to gobble it up because the previous film was a hit and the frenzied wave of superhero popularity is still drenching the domestic film market. I was not convinced, nor was I impressed.
6/10
The plot was tenuously held together, a string of arbitrary events (almost all of them occurring in broad daylight--has no one ever actually read a Batman comic?) mostly culled from 30s adventure serials and with no more impetus, serving to incite Bane's martial authority over Gotham and lure Bruce Wayne back to his guise as Batman. Bane himself existed in a state somewhere between unique re-envisioning and unintentional joke, with a voice and overall demeanor that is as baffling as it is pathetically comical and no other special traits that make him outstanding as a villain (they already played the diabolical mastermind card with Ra's Al-Ghul in Begins, and it would be futile to try to top The Joker as the enigmatic, senseless force of nihilistic destruction, so what did Bane have left? An above-average physique and an above-average mind for plotting criminal endeavors).
But the most grievous sin was making Bruce Wayne such a passive figure. The guy had literally no motivation in this film, no reason to want to return from his life as a recluse to rescue a city that fears and despises him. They shot themselves in the foot by spending more than half the film painting him as calloused and indifferent, then marking the second half with an abrupt about-face in not only his driving purpose but his entire personality, and expecting the audience to accept it unquestioningly (or maybe they did; they certainly seem to have done so thus far). Bale can grimace and scowl and flap his cape around, but he just isn't Batman. Batman has an alter ego, and an ethical code, and a highly-specialized, masterfully refined skill set for a compelling reason. Bale's Batman has them simply because a film translation of the character requires them in some form, and they are never addressed or utilized beyond a bare minimum level.
With Rises, Nolan has taken a narrative premise that belongs in a 45-minute crime scene investigation drama and transplanted it into a landscape that should have been more grave and epic than ever after the Joker's rampage in The Dark Knight, filled it full of lethargic characters with lackadaisical motives who act nothing like their comic counterparts dictate they should and expect moviegoers to gobble it up because the previous film was a hit and the frenzied wave of superhero popularity is still drenching the domestic film market. I was not convinced, nor was I impressed.
6/10
ParaParaJMo
Member
The movie came out this weekend in Japan and I saw it in IMAX. As an IMAX movie, it is VERY impressive. I really enjoyed the movie, but not as much as The Dark Knight and not as much as The Amazing Spider-Man (Avengers does not come out for another two weeks in Japan).
Tom Hardy as Bane is for the most part character wise, very true to his comic counter part. He is strong and cerebral. He had so much commanded presence to the point that if I had a choice between getting my neck broken by him or killing myself, I'd fucking kill myself. That's how scary Bane was. Hardy got the eye expression and the body language down like perfect. Funny you can call this movie The Warrior vs The Fighter in a way. I already knew Tom Hardy was perfect for Bane based on his roles in both The Warrior and Bronson in the way that Christian Bale was perfect for Bruce Wayne based on his excellent performance in American Psycho (I say his best movie tied with The Fighter).
But I don't like how the movie was inconsistent with Bruce's physical conditions and didn't really handicap him enough. I have had knee problems since I was 8 and I also have ACL problems and being explosive in a fight will be more difficult.
But I hope in a new Batman film, they will use villains NEVER USED before in live action such as Hush, Hugo Strange, Black Mask, Deathstroke, and hell, maybe even The Velintroquist and Scarface.
Tom Hardy as Bane is for the most part character wise, very true to his comic counter part. He is strong and cerebral. He had so much commanded presence to the point that if I had a choice between getting my neck broken by him or killing myself, I'd fucking kill myself. That's how scary Bane was. Hardy got the eye expression and the body language down like perfect. Funny you can call this movie The Warrior vs The Fighter in a way. I already knew Tom Hardy was perfect for Bane based on his roles in both The Warrior and Bronson in the way that Christian Bale was perfect for Bruce Wayne based on his excellent performance in American Psycho (I say his best movie tied with The Fighter).
But I don't like how the movie was inconsistent with Bruce's physical conditions and didn't really handicap him enough. I have had knee problems since I was 8 and I also have ACL problems and being explosive in a fight will be more difficult.
But I hope in a new Batman film, they will use villains NEVER USED before in live action such as Hush, Hugo Strange, Black Mask, Deathstroke, and hell, maybe even The Velintroquist and Scarface.
Sentaifan'07 Xman
"Let's DRIVING!!!!!"
Personally, I thought it wasn't as intensifying as I thought. It really had too much plot-holes.
Smilodon
Friendship and the Cosmos.
I thought it was good, but I did feel like there was a bit too much. I don't know why Nolan suddenly had trouble handling multiple villains all of a sudden since he handled Scarecrow/Ra's and Joker/Two-Face pretty well, but Bane really wasn't as impressive as he could have been. He broke the back, he had a cool voice, he was as vicious as he is in the comics but he wasn't as gravitating as the Joker was (Granted, Ledger's Joker was Anthony Hopkins-esque gravitating and enchanting)
Visually it was a superb film but yeah, The Dark Knight was a lot better.
Though, I saw a trailer for Man of Steel in theaters and that almost blew my socks off. So stoked for that one.
Visually it was a superb film but yeah, The Dark Knight was a lot better.
Though, I saw a trailer for Man of Steel in theaters and that almost blew my socks off. So stoked for that one.
Bolt
boogie woogie feng shui
I didn't think anything about Rises was superb or revolutionary. It was perfunctory, synthetic blockbuster "epic" atmosphere, a grossly mismanaged plotline, lethargic cinematography and a whole bunch of inconsistent characters that kept doing things that didn't make sense.
Honestly, I think people were generally just so excited anticipating its release that they were a lot more lenient than they should have been just because they so badly wanted to like it.
Honestly, I think people were generally just so excited anticipating its release that they were a lot more lenient than they should have been just because they so badly wanted to like it.
KingRanger
Banned
What was revolutionary about DKR?
FlashNeko
Member
People saying TDKR has unexplained plot-holes confuses me in the same way people saying Inception was somehow hard to understand does.
Both movies do a very good job of unobtrusively including scenes that allow the viewer to take a breath while also explaining what is going on for the slower members of the audience. :laugh:
I actually think that's something that TDKR does better than TDK. As much as I love TDK there are times where it's piling on so much that after a while you start to feel how LONG a movie it is (and realizing that, at the same time, you can't really cut out any of it without hurting the film). TDKR has a MUCH better sense of pacing.
Both movies do a very good job of unobtrusively including scenes that allow the viewer to take a breath while also explaining what is going on for the slower members of the audience. :laugh:
I actually think that's something that TDKR does better than TDK. As much as I love TDK there are times where it's piling on so much that after a while you start to feel how LONG a movie it is (and realizing that, at the same time, you can't really cut out any of it without hurting the film). TDKR has a MUCH better sense of pacing.
