Kamen Rider Ryuki - Talkback
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Which Rider did everyone have the most sympathy for and want to win the Rider War?.
I think I wanted Ren to save his girlfriend but now when I think about it... I totally should have gone with Kitaoka/Lawyer Bagon.
I think I wanted Ren to save his girlfriend but now when I think about it... I totally should have gone with Kitaoka/Lawyer Bagon.
Well thats it finished bar the special + movie. really like it. The very end of the final ep made me go "eh" for a bit, but i think i know what happened there...maybe the special/movie will either confirm or deny my suspicions.
I was told by people that the show felt padded out..but i disagree. I liked all the characters (except for the ones that i'm not supposed to like) and the relationships built between the riders. Even Asakura..sure hes deranged but i almost felt that he'd come to rely on the other main characters as a support group.....a support group that he can beat up and possibly kill to get his jollies.
I'm sure he would have liked nothing more than to have an opponent that he cannot kill so that they could fight for the rest of his life.
At one point i figured they'd go for the "the real world is the fake world, and the mirror world is the real world" thing...but they didn't seem to push for that idea...oh well. Maybe thats something that the special/movie will play with.
I'm never a fan of reset shows..and i would have preferred it if it had ended right at the last scene of Yui and her bro drawing pictures in that little pocket universe of there's....in that respect i'm getting flash backs to Battlestar Galactica(another reset show which could have had the perfect ending had they just stopped a few minutes early) but what ya gonna do.
I know that common wisdom is that time was reset...buuutt...i prefer to think of it that the scenes from the end are a new world drawn in the pictures of their cube.After all we never saw this conjectured Time Vent take place, and if the subs i watched were an accurate translation; Yui basically said they should start again from the beginning, which could be interpreted as either turning back time or shaking the proverbial etch-a-sketch and starting again, at least that's how i rational it to myself...i know its probably not right but i prefer this idea.Wrong or not it makes the ending more palatable to me.
After all the kanzakis drew all the monsters in the mirror world and possibly even created the mirror world itself so i don't see it being beyond their power to redraw the world they lived in to bring back all HER friends without the burden of the rider war.
I'm not going to say that the reset made the events that preceded it completely worthless as those events had to happen in order to make the reset possible(or did they?) but i find it sad that all those relationships, all those moments are now lost except for in the memories of the Kanzakis.
It Vexes me :disappoin
I mean IF time was indeed reset..then..what was the point of the war? Ren revived his girlfriend for a bit..then the whole thing became undone. I would have understood if it was Ren himself that had performed the reset. Say if he had acquired the Time Vent card after beating Odin then used it and the power from winning to reset time for everyone but himself.I'm borrowing from some Dr Who ideas here but say if Ren could only reset time from within the Mirror World, meaning he could save all his friends, but he'd then be stuck on the other side, constantly watching over Eri but being unable to interact with anyone. Kinda for-fills that whole "tragic hero" vibe that he was going for. Yea that batman aesthetic wasn't lost on me either. Dark Knight indeed.
But if we stick with conventional thinking and it was Shoichi that reset everything for Yuis sake..then..why the hell didn't he do that from the start? It boggles the mind.
Aside from that the only thing i didn't like was that they didn't explain why the final rider has all this power.I don't even mind about the existence of the mirror world as its not a new concept. I don't even mind them not explaining how it is that the Kanzaki kids have this power because its not important, and i suppose in that respect WHY the last rider gains this ultimate power isn't important either but since everyone is fighting for it it would have been nice if someone...anyone had asked how it worked. *shrug*
I was told by people that the show felt padded out..but i disagree. I liked all the characters (except for the ones that i'm not supposed to like) and the relationships built between the riders. Even Asakura..sure hes deranged but i almost felt that he'd come to rely on the other main characters as a support group.....a support group that he can beat up and possibly kill to get his jollies.
I'm sure he would have liked nothing more than to have an opponent that he cannot kill so that they could fight for the rest of his life.
At one point i figured they'd go for the "the real world is the fake world, and the mirror world is the real world" thing...but they didn't seem to push for that idea...oh well. Maybe thats something that the special/movie will play with.
I'm never a fan of reset shows..and i would have preferred it if it had ended right at the last scene of Yui and her bro drawing pictures in that little pocket universe of there's....in that respect i'm getting flash backs to Battlestar Galactica(another reset show which could have had the perfect ending had they just stopped a few minutes early) but what ya gonna do.
I know that common wisdom is that time was reset...buuutt...i prefer to think of it that the scenes from the end are a new world drawn in the pictures of their cube.After all we never saw this conjectured Time Vent take place, and if the subs i watched were an accurate translation; Yui basically said they should start again from the beginning, which could be interpreted as either turning back time or shaking the proverbial etch-a-sketch and starting again, at least that's how i rational it to myself...i know its probably not right but i prefer this idea.Wrong or not it makes the ending more palatable to me.
After all the kanzakis drew all the monsters in the mirror world and possibly even created the mirror world itself so i don't see it being beyond their power to redraw the world they lived in to bring back all HER friends without the burden of the rider war.
I'm not going to say that the reset made the events that preceded it completely worthless as those events had to happen in order to make the reset possible(or did they?) but i find it sad that all those relationships, all those moments are now lost except for in the memories of the Kanzakis.
It Vexes me :disappoin
I mean IF time was indeed reset..then..what was the point of the war? Ren revived his girlfriend for a bit..then the whole thing became undone. I would have understood if it was Ren himself that had performed the reset. Say if he had acquired the Time Vent card after beating Odin then used it and the power from winning to reset time for everyone but himself.I'm borrowing from some Dr Who ideas here but say if Ren could only reset time from within the Mirror World, meaning he could save all his friends, but he'd then be stuck on the other side, constantly watching over Eri but being unable to interact with anyone. Kinda for-fills that whole "tragic hero" vibe that he was going for. Yea that batman aesthetic wasn't lost on me either. Dark Knight indeed.
But if we stick with conventional thinking and it was Shoichi that reset everything for Yuis sake..then..why the hell didn't he do that from the start? It boggles the mind.
Aside from that the only thing i didn't like was that they didn't explain why the final rider has all this power.I don't even mind about the existence of the mirror world as its not a new concept. I don't even mind them not explaining how it is that the Kanzaki kids have this power because its not important, and i suppose in that respect WHY the last rider gains this ultimate power isn't important either but since everyone is fighting for it it would have been nice if someone...anyone had asked how it worked. *shrug*
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HenshinHero
For the lulz.
After watching the series, I feel like they could have done more with Imperer and his whole Rider-for-Hire schtick. Also, who were those unused characters in the intro supposed to be?
musashi03
HEROW
Hmmm... Not really, I thought Imperer's death was the best death scene in the sense that it was the most tragic of all. But yeah, perhaps they could have used him some more since he felt a bit hyped up before his debut.
Forever Knight
Eye See You
I didn't think it was possible for any fan to want Shinji to win.
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