Kamen Rider OOO Rumor/Picture Thread

[Hidden Masta]

How do you even get that he could be trying to cure cancer by killing people and that makes him a good person from this?

The **** man?! How many time do I have to say?! We don't know what he wants! The cancer thing is just an example. It was to say how do we know that his master plan isn't all leading to something good?!

 

[Darkster]

Focus on the second half of the post.

 

[Hidden Masta]

Who did he kill?

 

[lazycoconut]

Kougami's indirectly responsible for the deaths of a whole bunch of his subordinates (including the motorcycle patrol from episode 1, and the people who were killed when Maki let the Shark Yummies rampage through the lab) and the people who die because he doesn't stop the Greeed. I can't help wondering if it will be a plot point that Gotou survived the first episode because Kougami had a use for him ...

 

[Hidden Masta]

Kougami's indirectly responsible for the deaths of a whole bunch of his subordinates (including the motorcycle patrol from episode 1, and the people who were killed when Maki let the Shark Yummies rampage through the lab) and the people who die because he doesn't stop the Greeed. I can't help wondering if it will be a plot point that Gotou survived the first episode because Kougami had a use for him ...

Maki killed those scientist Kougami never intended for them to die. He didn't even know the Yummy was there. As for the subordinates and Goto, they all joined knowing they would have to fight Greeed and Yummy. There like soldiers they were willing to risk there lives. He didn't force them they joined they did on there own just like Goto.

But you know what **** THIS! I'm done. I think he has the "doing what needs to be done" mentality but don't listen to me. You all obviously think he's a bad guy and I don't give a ****. I'm just waiting to see what happens before I judge a person. Excuse me for being fucking reasonable.

 

[lazycoconut]

We don't know yet if he's "bad", but at this stage, he's the most obvious candidate for the Big Boss Guy. (That could change - W made it look like Terror would fill that role, but the last enemy turned out to be Utopia.) He has a lot of hidden depths; he comes across as a kooky type but he's very scheming and seems to have a lot more control than people might think.

 

[Forever Knight]

Kougami's indirectly responsible for the deaths of a whole bunch of his subordinates

He is sexist.

You can not prove I am wrong same way I can not prove you.

Is he STILL asking people to prove things to him as if his opinion is right and actually matters to anyone else?.

 

[Kiryurules]

Personally, for all it's worth, I'm on Hidden Masta's side concerning Kougami and his motivations. So far Kougami hasn't displayed any clearly evil intentions or performed any clearly evil actions; yes, he apparently allowed his soldiers to die in a hopeless fight against the Greeed, but I think that particular battle was so brief that I doubt Kougami would have time to order them to retreat anyway, once the dying started.

Kougami's intentions and motivations for gathering Cell Medals might well be personal and "evil", or they might be completely altruistic and for the betterment of mankind as a whole. We don't know, and even though we can make guesses, we won't know until it's revealed in the show itself.

Sure, going by how supporting organizations USUALLY turn out in Heisei Rider shows the Kougami Foundation will indeed turn out to be evil. But we don't know what Kobayashi has in mind, and Gotou is already going against the usual "asshole 2nd Rider" trope, so she may well prove us wrong :thumbs:

 

[dchoc]

Kougami, in my opinion, is in a gray area right now. Did he free the Greeeds? Nope. It was Ankh who did that. Ankh was awakened by the "greed" of those two thieves as shown in the first episode. How did Kougami come across the medals? Maybe he's part of family that has known about the core medals and the stories about them... Dr. Maki was rumored to be the Giru. He must have seeded Kougami's mind about how to harness the power of the medals.

So, I suggest that instead of coming to conclusions regarding his character, let's wait for the story to progress. We can all make assumptions, much like how that female doctor was being force to not do any surgeries due to sexism or what not (I'm not one of those), which we eventually found out that it was because of another reason.

:thumbs:

 

[NeonZ]

yes, he apparently allowed his soldiers to die in a hopeless fight against the Greeed, but I think that particular battle was so brief that I doubt Kougami would have time to order them to retreat anyway, once the dying started.

He seemingly didn't care at all about their deaths though and just kept singing even while they disappeared from the computer. That's certainly not the atittude of someone who is aiming to do any good for others.