Kamen Rider Kabuto - Full Series Talk Up!

I thought Mizushima Hiro did an excellent job of portraying Tendou Souji, I can't imagine anyone else in the role.
Shigeki Hosokawa could have played the character a Hell of a lot better, even if he was ten years too old. Same with Hidenori Tokuyama.
 
I could even see Ken'ichi Matsuyama doing a bang-up job on Tendou. He had the lightness and badassness that Hiro never brought to the table.
 
They weren't showing Tendou's cruelty, they were trying to make us think that Tendou had lost it, but then showed the Worm shift into his Worm form. Given that Tendou doesn't kill Worms just for being Worms, but for harming humanity, we can only assume that the Worm had been commiting an atrocity of some kind and was merely a coward, unwilling to take his punishment with dignity. I liked Hibiki as well. He was strong, confident and well-trained, but he wasn't amazing. He wasn't awe-inspriing. Tendou is a hero who is always one step ahead, who leaves his opponents and his allies baffled. Some people grew weary of that, but I loved every moment of it.

Ryotaro said:
Shigeki Hosokawa could have played the character a Hell of a lot better, even if he was ten years too old. Same with Hidenori Tokuyama.
The character as you would have preferred him to be, or the character that Mizushima Hiro was supposed to portray...?
 
I could even see Ken'ichi Matsuyama doing a bang-up job on Tendou. He had the lightness and badassness that Hiro never brought to the table.
L, right? Yeah, he would have been great as Tendou.

They weren't showing Tendou's cruelty, they were trying to make us think that Tendou had lost it, but then showed the Worm shift into his Worm form. Given that Tendou doesn't kill Worms just for being Worms, but for harming humanity, we can only assume that the Worm had been commiting an atrocity of some kind and was merely a coward, unwilling to take his punishment with dignity. I liked Hibiki as well. He was strong, confident and well-trained, but he wasn't amazing. He wasn't awe-inspriing. Tendou is a hero who is always one step ahead, who leaves his opponents and his allies baffled. Some people grew weary of that, but I loved every moment of it.
Pretty sure that was at the time that Tendou believed all Worms to be a threat to humans. I think the show was trying to show us that Tendou's way of thinking at the time was flawed, which played out pretty good. If the Worm had done something worth being killed(which I don't think it did), then it should have been shown on screen. Tendou really isn't all that awe-inspiring to me but more of someone who has able to let his inner personality come out without fear of what others thought, however flawed that real personality seemed.
The character as you would have preferred him to be, or the character that Mizushima Hiro was supposed to portray...?
The character that Mizushima was meant to portray. He isn't a horrible actor, but I don't think Mizushima was experienced enough to play a character like Tendou. Hosokawa and Hidenori are just a few of the actors that I think could have played a character like Tendou near perfectly.
 
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L, right? Yeah, he would have been great as Tendou.

Pretty sure that was at the time that Tendou believed all Worms to be a threat to humans. I think the show was trying to show us that Tendou's way of thinking at the time was flawed, which played out pretty good. If the Worm had done something worth being killed(which I don't think it did), then it should have been shown on screen. Tendou really isn't all that awe-inspiring to me but more of someone who has able to let his inner personality come out without fear of what others though, however flawed that real personality seemed.
The character that Mizushima was meant to portray. He isn't a horrible actor, but I don't think Mizushima was experienced enough to play a character like Tendou. Hosokawa and Hidenori are just a few of the actors that I think could have played a character like Tendou near perfectly.

Correct, yeah - L. He's probably my favorite actor in Japan - ever. He made the Death Note movies amazingly awesome. And the guy has shown and said he is driven and works hard for his work.

Hiro just seemed lethargic in his work sometimes. I always thought Ken'ichi would of played a more 'quiet asshole' with his sayings, ect and less of the egotistical bastard Hiro created slightly with his words and tone.
 
Out of ten stars, this series gets six from me. Good concepts, horrible, horrible, horrible execution.

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I thought Kamen Rider Kabuto was awesome but it could've alot better if there is more characters development and others. Otherwise, the story was good but some stuff were missing and nothing deep explain how did those happened.

I don't mind to have more than 6 Riders in that series. All designs were sick. Loved those suits and helmets.

Tendou is one of my favourite character and always. Hizo was an excellent actor.

Yagurama was badass as TheBee. Amazing and then later he became Kamen Rider Kick Hopper. Still, awesome.

Kageyaman sucked as TheBee. He was so pathetic and annoyed. I can't stand him as Kamen Rider TheBee. Until he became Kamen Rider Punch Hopper, he was awesome, but until it went downhill... I was disappointed.

Tsuguri owns you all! He was awesome when he became Sasword. Amazing.

Daisuke was hardly seen on the series. Rarely. Very rarely. He was ok. Drake was always cool but hardly show up.

Kagami was, IMO, very UNDERRATED. I always liked him in the show and since he became Gatack. He deserved it a lot. Underrated character.

I liked this series along with cooking stuff subplot and others. Infact, I was too excited to see Mika Kikuchi. I fall in love! :anime: UMEKO!

Full series gets 8 out of 10. Great show tho.
 
Pretty sure that was at the time that Tendou believed all Worms to be a threat to humans. I think the show was trying to show us that Tendou's way of thinking at the time was flawed, which played out pretty good. If the Worm had done something worth being killed(which I don't think it did), then it should have been shown on screen.
No, despite how some (viewers and others characters in the show, sometimes as part of Tendou's plan) interpret what he's said, Tendou never believed in killing all Worms, just the ones who threatened humanity (the vast majority of them). The Worm that Tendou finished in episode 31 who was begging for mercy is one who broke off from the large group of them earlier in the episode. The exchange between Kagami and Tendou after that scene will explain it:

Kagami: "Do you ever hesitate before killing a Worm? The Worm hold the memories of the humans they mimic."
Tendou: "If I hesitate, I will be the one that dies."

Like several dangerous Worms before him, that Worm was obviously trying to appeal to Tendou's compassion by using his mimic form and pleading for mercy. If you let a Worm manipulate your emotions, you'll end up dead. Ryo-Worm would have killed Kagami, Daisuke's favorite customer's mimic would have killed him and though there was some good still left in Makoto-Worm, he and his brethren killed Kagami (who was of course, resurrected as Gatack). Tendou obviously protected Hiyori and other good Natives and he only defeated Tsurugi beacuse that's what Tsurugi wanted. He left Reina up to Daisuke, who was losing her humanity again and needed to be put down, because she was a threat to humanity.

So Tendou obviously did lose it for a few episodes, his paranoia regarding Hiyori's safety leading him to strip the Zecters from the Riders that he couldn't trust) and being especially confrontational, but he never lost his morality.

Ryotaro said:
Tendou really isn't all that awe-inspiring to me but more of someone who has able to let his inner personality come out without fear of what others though, however flawed that real personality seemed.
It wasn't just that he was unabashedly arrogant, it was that he continuously proved himself and justified his arrogance. He inspired awe through his combat prowess, keen intellect (identifying Worms, managing to infiltrate churches, hospitals, the police, etc.) and exceeding normal human limits. All of the lofty metaphors he uses for himself were appropriate, given his role in the series, in relation to the other characters. He is the sun and no matter how bright the other stars shine, they'll never be a match for the sun.

Ryotaro said:
The character that Mizushima was meant to portray. He isn't a horrible actor, but I don't think Mizushima was experienced enough to play a character like Tendou. Hosokawa and Hidenori are just a few of the actors that I think could have played a character like Tendou near perfectly.
Hidenori's character Yaguruma was similar to Tendou's at first, so I can see that. I can't imagine Hosokawa portraying Tendou, because it's such a different role from Hibiki, who is a friendly, lighthearted person with a song in his heart. That doesn't mean he isn't capable of playing a character like Tendou, I just have a difficult time picturing it.
 
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No, despite how some (viewers and others characters in the show, sometimes as part of Tendou's plan) interpret what he's said, Tendou never believed in killing all Worms, just the ones who threatened humanity (the vast majority of them). The Worm that Tendou finished in episode 31 who was begging for mercy is one who broke off from the large group of them earlier in the episode. The exchange between Kagami and Tendou after that scene will explain it:

Kagami: "Do you ever hesitate before killing a Worm? The Worm hold the memories of the humans they mimic."
Tendou: "If I hesitate, I will be the one that dies."

Like several dangerous Worms before him, that Worm was obviously trying to appeal to Tendou's compassion by using his mimic form and pleading for mercy. If you let a Worm manipulate your emotions, you'll end up dead. Ryo-Worm would have killed Kagami, Daisuke's favorite customer's mimic would have killed him and though there was some good still left in Makoto-Worm, he and his brethren killed Kagami (who was of course, resurrected as Gatack). Tendou obviously protected Hiyori and other good Natives and he only defeated Tsurugi beacuse that's what Tsurugi wanted. He left Reina up to Daisuke, who was losing her humanity again and needed to be put down, because she was a threat to humanity.

So Tendou obviously did lose it for a few episodes, his paranoia regarding Hiyori's safety leading him to strip the Zecters from the Riders that he couldn't trust) and being especially confrontational, but he never lost his morality.
I'm pretty sure it was a while before Tendou believed that not all Worms were a threat to humanity. I distinctly remember him saying something along those lines somewhere in the early 40s. Also, around when Kagami became Gatack and he said maybe all Worms aren't evil, Tendou called him naive, so I'm fairly certain that for the majority of the series, Tendou believed all Worms to be a threat.Wwhich is why I think he was able to put up a good argument with Negishi when he said that humans were all a threat; he's felt like that before, he knows the thinking and knows how it was flawed.

Hesitation is needed in battle sometimes. You can't always expect things to go your way or to know every possible outcome, if you think like that, you will likely end up doing something too rash. That's not to say that you should let your opponent manipulate the way that you think, but you have to examine how things are going and if someone really does deserve to die. Life is irreplaceable, Kabuto is strong, he could have easily held off that Worm until he knew for sure if it had killed someone else.

Tendou, as a character, ended in a better place than when he started. I just feel that it took too long for him to realize something as obvious as noticing that just because one member of a race does something doesn't mean they're all bad.

It wasn't just that he was unabashedly arrogant, it was that he continuously proved himself and justified his arrogance. He inspired awe through his combat prowess, keen intellect (identifying Worms, managing to infiltrate churches, hospitals, the police, etc.) and exceeding normal human limits. All of the lofty metaphors he uses for himself were appropriate, given his role int he series, in relation to the other characters. He is the sun and no matter how bright the other stars shine, they'll never be a match for the sun.
What I didn't like is that a lot of the times, he set the bar for what was just and if people didn't do things his way, they had to be stopped. Arrogance is one thing, but pushing that on other people is going to far in my opinion. I believe that last line to be a very flawed belief on Tendou's part. There is nothing wrong with believing that you are a strong person and that you are better than a lot of others, but believing that no one will ever exceed you is just ludicrous. There were lots of times when he was beaten in battle, Cassisworm owned him in their first battle, sure Tendou eventually found a way to beat him, but that doesn't negate the fact that he was beaten at one point in time. Tendou is able to adapt and that's a good thing, but he went over the top in his self righteous behaviors sometimes.

It's something that I think he realized by the end of the series. He can't do everything by himself and he does need the help of others at times. Again, I like where he ended up, it's just the way that he got there I did not like.


Hidenori's character Yaguruma was similar to Tendou's at first, so I can see that. I can't imagine Hosokawa portraying Tendou, because it's such a different role from Hibiki, who is a friendly, lighthearted person with a song in his heart. That doesn't mean he isn't capable of playing a character like Tendou, I just have a difficult time picturing it.
Probably should have been more clear on that one, sorry. I meant that Hosokawa could portray Tendou better with the type of Tendou we had in the first four episodes or so. Even though he wouldn't be as strong as in the first four episodes, I think he could do a good job as Tendou later on in the series. He's done some good roles like that in the past. But now that I think of it, Ken'ichi Matsuyama really would have been an ideal Tendou. If you've ever seen Death Note, he plays arrogant characters pretty well and without coming off like a huge ass, which I think was a side effect of Mizushima's inexperience in such roles and one of the main reasons I didn't like Tendou a lot. I like good and arrogant characters, but with the way he was acted, I just couldn't like Tendou that much.
 
I'm currently writing my thoughts down in word so I'll be back but I wanted to point this out:

But now that I think of it, Ken'ichi Matsuyama really would have been an ideal Tendou. If you've ever seen Death Note, he plays arrogant characters pretty well and without coming off like a huge ass,

L isn't an arrogant character. L does not shove it in your face that he is the better one. L's character is very collective and cool, to me, L comes off as someone who is more collected than arrogant. I do not remember how the movie handled his character, but Light was the arrogant one not L. I personally would not have liked Kenichi Matsuyama to play Tendou, he doesn't look like a " Tendou ".
 
Not adding much here but I'd just like to agree with Ryotaro 110%, even though I voted a 4 instead of a 6. I really hated Kabuto, it went to hell for me right around late 20s, early 30s, and never really recovered. I'm tired of hearing all these people putting Kabuto on a pedestal, but now that it's over hopefully it'll slowly die off. <_<;
 

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