Kamen Rider Fourze Rumor/Picture Thread Part 2

[Mikon]

*reads the last three pages*

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[ifsoboy43]

Alright, everyone...

QFT. Yada yada yada, blah blah blah. Just hold your bloody horses. Quit it about the masculinity and femininity talk. Everyone has their own opinions and have their right to stand up for it. But this is not the platform for it. It's a RUMOUR THREAD.

 

[lazycoconut]

Monty Python

DON'T TALK ABOUT GENDER ROLES

Thank you both so much for the mental image of Gentaro doing the Lumberjack Song :sweat:

Just ran ca3 through Google Translate and episodes 9-10 (Nozama) appear to mention witches and Yuki, can anyone with better Japanese work it out? Her little ritual for "burying" Gentaro in #6 was hilarious

EDIT: Never mind, just looked for the original text and it was actually for episode 5-6. Probably to do with her creeping all over Yuki :sweat:

 

[Black Fang]

It means that leading roles and character archetypes would be divided equally between the sexes, so it wouldn't be unfair.

Again, what does that mean? How do you determine what's fair? What is equal?

Why is that, do you think? Couldn't possibly be because they have grown up in a culture that tells them their only value is as servants and sex objects?

By that logic, every Japanese woman is either serving some male bigshot or is a prostitute. That's... not how it works.

i can't rewatch the movie right now, but I only remeber her getting a hit, not really injurying him. She ended up having to escape anyway.

And she's the only Rider to ever have to escape from a place?

The problem isn't Shinji thinking that way, it's the show going on to show that he was basically right and that females shouldn't be Riders. That's a prety bad concept to be the main point of the first official female Rider.

I still don't see how it was proving anything. The same stuff that happened to Miho in the movie could have happened to a male in her place.

Because he was a kid. Saying that a kid shouldn't be a Rider is different from saying that a woman shouldn't be a Rider.

I understand what you say there about Shinji disliking the Rider battle in general. However, rather than saying that no one should be a Rider, he specifically says that it's "too much" for a girl. I think the implication is obvious.

Well is the context of Ryuki the same as the contexts of every other show? No. Here the premise that there is a Game between 13 Riders where they must all fight to the death until one remains. In this context the Riders sans Shinji and Tezuka are "members" of the "organization". Miho is just another such "member".

Shinji isn't saying girls can't be heroes. Shinji would probably be ecstatic if Miho ended up fighting alongside him and (if he had survived) Tezuka to end the Game and stop the Monsters. But in the context of this game where people are killing each other for (usually) selfish goals while beating back man-eating monsters at the same time, he probably feels a girl like Miho couldn't take it.

In any event, I'd still chalk it up to him just being surprised to see a girl Rider and not holding any deeper meaning.

Yes? The Rider suits should multiply the abilities of the wearer by a lot considering what the damage they survive from and unleash. Asakura grabbing her like that was completely ridiculous and only there to show even further how a "girl" shouldn't be a Rider.

Either something is wrong with me, or you all are taking away from strange notions from these scenes. Asakura is capable of almost anything. Him doing this doesn't surprise me. If it had been a male Rider he had been choking, would you be objecting as fervently?

Why a "male schoolkid"? She was 18 years old, not 14 or 15. It really sounds like you're comparing her to a male child.

Well you seem to be objecting to the way she was portrayed simply because she was female. I want to know whether if she had been just another guy, people would have a problem. Would they just write him off as another throwaway weak chump movie Rider and forget about him?

 

[KamenRiderUNDERGROUND]

SHUT UP! I spent 10 minutes reading the last 7 pages hoping there would be some rumour and NOTHING! It's not even Fourze-related!

 

[Savior Den-o]

SHUT UP! I spent 10 minutes reading the last 7 pages hoping there would be some rumour and NOTHING! It's not even Fourze-related!

You can blame Lazycoco for that since she starting the 'Females in Toku have no rights' rant again

 

[Burkion]

Well, let's be fair. They don't.


Like I said-TACKLE is the most successful female Rider.

And, well...

The difference is if you're going to bitch about it or just try to put up with it.

 

[dchoc]

Tackle is not a rider.....

 

[Burkion]

She is in all but name.

If we go by that, Riderman isn't a Rider either.

Nor is Kuuga.

Or Agito.

 

[dchoc]

She is in all but name.

If we go by that, Riderman isn't a Rider either.

Nor is Kuuga.

Or Agito.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

You probably need to look up what it means.