Heroic Decepticons, Evil Autobots!

[Skyknight]

http://botcon.com/Botcon08/08figures.cfm

Gotta love the "Jetfire" version of Starscream and Optimus. 'Till all are gone:laugh:

What exactly is so heroic about the name "Decepticon"

I like this, to turn TF on it's head with a "Small Soldiers" inspired concept would be better if it were developed into a series (never going to happen)

 

[JustAnotherBlueRanger]

http://botcon.com/Botcon08/08figures.cfm

Gotta love the "Jetfire" version of Starscream and Optimus. 'Till all are gone:laugh:

What exactly is so heroic about the name "Decepticon"

I like this, to turn TF on it's head with a "Small Soldiers" inspired concept would be better if it were developed into a series (never going to happen)

I don't like it at all, especially it was speculated about I think 2 years ago and we first saw designs of this set last year when leaked photos of the Grimlock re-paint hit the net.

I don't think this set's worth the money, especially after last year's full scale screwing of the fans.

 

[Dark Kabuto]

...Intresting.

Can't wait to see what there Megatron'll look like

 

[HaiTien78]

Jazz and Goldbug are looking pretty cool, same can't be said for that Re-Painted Classic Optimus

 

[Mega Ranger]

The only one that interests me is Megatron because I already loved that Mold. but from reports, even once I get there it's gonna be darn near immpossible to get my hands on one.

 

[Ragna "D" BloodEdge]

They might as well just go ahead and name that Optimus repaint Nemesis Prime and be done with it.

 

[Impulse87]

anybody reading IDW's transformer comics? I am loving Nova Prime/Nemesis Prime's design, have they released a toy version yet?

 

[Gryphman]

I don't think this set's worth the money, especially after last year's full scale screwing of the fans.

I will now explain why you are wrong.

Each year's set is put in the works almost a year in advance. They have to decide on characers, molds, color schemes, which characters get new parts, and design those parts. That is a process that takes months. Not only that, but there is a certain point where there's no turning back. Once things get moving so far, you cannot change them.

Now, keeping all that in mind. That set was in the works before Hasbro decided to do Universe. At that point in time, Classics was no more than a filler line between Cybertron and the movie. The four remaining seekers were never going to come out. It was not a part of Hasbro's plans and never going to be.

You can be mad that you can't get them all you want, but saying they screwed the fans is just plain incorrect.

 

[Mega Ranger]

yeah all you have to do to get the set is pay for a Non-attending package and get the set mailed to you. it's not like the price is any diffrent each year. thats what I did to get the Pre-BW Maximals. and then spent 3 weeks creating Predacons to go with them (I didn't like thier Megatron or Waspinator)

 

[JustAnotherBlueRanger]

I will now explain why you are wrong.

Each year's set is put in the works almost a year in advance. They have to decide on characers, molds, color schemes, which characters get new parts, and design those parts. That is a process that takes months. Not only that, but there is a certain point where there's no turning back. Once things get moving so far, you cannot change them.

Now, keeping all that in mind. That set was in the works before Hasbro decided to do Universe. At that point in time, Classics was no more than a filler line between Cybertron and the movie. The four remaining seekers were never going to come out. It was not a part of Hasbro's plans and never going to be.

You can be mad that you can't get them all you want, but saying they screwed the fans is just plain incorrect.

No I will explain why you are wrong.

Last year's MAIN "Games of Decepticon" was around $350+.

Now said set consisted of 5 figures, four deluxes and one voyager. Now two of the Deluxes had their molds slightly altered and the Voyager got a new head sculpt.

Prices for those molds in stores were (going by KB which I believe is the most expensive store at the time) Deluxes were $15 and Voyagers were $25.

So you have 4 x $15 = $60
plus 1x $25 = $25
+----
$85. Plus tax makes it about $90.

In short Master Collector offered up a set that was almost four times their shelf value with very little changes done to said set. And in said set, Hasbro and Master Collector inserted the three remaining figures fans REALLY wanted in the Seekers.

So yes that was mass screwing of the fans by Hasbro and MC. To the point where fans EVERYWHERE (Seibertron, Tformers, TFW2005, All-Spark) universally BITCHED, complained and bashed the hell out of them for doing so.

Now as time passes, people might, emphasis on *MIGHT* let their anger cool on this subject but don't sit there for one minute and try to defend what Hasbro and MC did as not screwing the fans over. They did it and they know it and they know the vast majority of the fans still hate them for doing so.

That's why you've seen such a negative fan reaction to the exclusives since that fiasco. Alternaters Rodimus and Menasor are still both widely available and for very cheap prices as an indication as such.