I honestly hope it is not. I really would like to see you continue sharing what you've got and honestly considering what we have to say.
Okay, fine.
If you think you are being driven away, it is because of your inability to accept criticism. The thread Dai linked to clearly shows that. The same exact conversation went on there just as here, ending in the same way.
So you read the entire thread I take it? That means you saw they were NOT answering the question I asked ( "What are some ways to raise funds?") and instead trying hard to convince me not to make a film at all.
Let me link you to another recent thread from that forum.
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43888&sid=
Recognize some of the same names, don't you? That's the kind of "feedback" they give to someone who admits it was his first film.
Once upon a time that was a good forum for constructive feedback and advice on film-making. Now it has a clique of the same people who have been posting there for years who could give advice to people but instead choose to tear others down and mock them.
There are various kinds of criticism. The helpful kind is called "constructive criticism". To be constructive criticism, the feedback must be useful and respectful. This is not the kind of criticism I received from those critics nor from some of the people here.
Here is a personal example of what constructive criticism looks like:
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43888&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=
Another kind of criticism is hypercriticism. It's criticism given out of a desire to find fault where there is none. For example, crying wolf about how my story sucks and I need to learn how to tell a story when they haven't read my story nor seen any of my stories.
The last kind of criticism I will talk about is hypocriticsm. This is where someone criticizes another for doing the same thing they do. For example, Daikamonohashi lecturing me on video production and how this genre can
be done effectively with less than $1,000 when he's yet to make any video with a coherent story, intelligible audio or lighting the damn thing so there isn't huge grain pixelation on every shot.
Am I over-reacting?
No.
Even you said this was his best film to date.
[ame="http://vimeo.com/7983847"]Episode 74b - "Adam is Not Korean (Part 2)" on Vimeo[/ame]
I have crappy, hastily-created game reviews that have more thought put into them, demonstrate more technical prowess and (most importantly) possess a narrative to maintain the audience's attention span.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0BZoG9-T50"] Azure Dreams Review[/ame]
I've done a bunch of these reviews. Here's another.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRoTuoQEl1Y"]YouTube - RPG Fanatic: Persona 4 Video Game Review[/ame]
Hell, I have a hastily made review of the original Ultraman series that has both better lighting and audio than the best effort Daikamonohashi has made on his fan films of Ultraman.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So4dzspPySI"]YouTube - Ultraman : Original Japanese Superhero TV Show Review[/ame]
And I make these videos entirely by myself with whatever is laying around my apartment.
And they are better than your team efforts.
Daikamonohashi, the big difference between me pointing out your flaws and you pointing them out
is you talked down to me first. You tried to tell me what was possible when you have nothing to back up your claims. I spent time explaining in detail what the money was needed for and you rejected it while pointing to your own finished and unfinished productions; none of which are representative of what I'm trying to do and are actually of worse quality than the body of work I've created without any assistance.
I was trying very hard to be nice but when so many response are talking down to me, that is where I cease trying to be polite. Someone even had the gull to link to some poorly made Godzilla and Ultraman fanfilms that are the exact kind of thing
I'm trying not to make by getting the appropriate resources needed to create a quality production.
If I didn't have a thick skin I would not have continued trying to be polite as long as I did. There comes a point when after you've pushed hard enough people push back. The reason I'm uninterested in continuing to post here is because this has turned into a e-peen contest of who can do what.
And this is why we can't have nice things.
The promo was a massive turnoff. I know you say the movie itself will not use the sound effects or music but in that case I don't know why you did it that way. It's like you figured "People like Scott Pilgrim, so if I do something with the same jokes as Scott Pilgrim, people will associate my movie with Scott Pilgrim and like it."
Actually I like Scott Pilgrim; I'm a big fan.
Before the film came out I had to explain the visual style I intended for GKaiser with, "Look at this sequence in this anime!" or "Look at this sequence in Kamen Rider V3 with the zooms!" and a x1,000 other things that I wanted to incorporate elements from.
Which, if you think makes me a ripoff demonstrates you do not know much about film-making
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomageShot
If I'm a ripoff because I wish to include homages to things I love, so is every other good director alive today.
Anyway, now that Scott Pilgrim is out I can simply refer to it as a template for the visual style I want the film to have. I mean I still have to show people shots from stuff like Saint Seiya and Howard the Duck we have shout-outs to, but people can actually visualize what we are doing.
Someone says my creative vision changed because I wanted it to "look like it was shot in the 60's but today" and now I say Scott Pilgrim. What I was talking about is the camera techniques. For example, zooming in and pulling out. Zooms and pulls are not normally used in modern film-making and if they are used, they are used sparingly and primarily in establishing shots. Dolley and crane shots are prefered.
However, zooms were heavily used in older films for dramatic emphasis, especially those in Hong kong action films and Japanese tokusatsu shows.
Zooms are also used heavily in Scott Pilgrim for dramatic emphasis. I doubt this is coincidence. The framing and way actors behave is actually worthy of great consideration-- if you pay close attention, there is very little movement in characters, which I honestly think was purposely done to imitate the limited animation technique used in Japanese animation...but I digress.
I wrote, directed and (poorly) acted in a new Kickstarter promo with a narrative to illustrate I had the ability to make more than just no-budget game reviews. I could tell a story, I could make people laugh and I could maintain the audience's interest for almost ten minutes.
The short was made as a homage to Scott Pilgrim's opening scene to help keep people in the mindset of what we aspired to create.
If you thought we going to go out and film some people in half-finished costumes fighting then you had too high of expectations. Given the reaction I got from the original test footage in the unfinished costumes, I learned not to do that ever again.
And I doubt it would have mattered because when you're grasping at straws that have nothing to do with what is being discussed we have gone well past the communication breakdown.
I'm not going to go too much into the Ronald McDonald stuff because I've got some serious issues with what you did there. All I'll say is: take that **** off your page. It's hurting you. Bad.
It's not hurting me. The majority of people who watch it don't see it as being harmful and it wasn't intended to be harmful. Anyone who has a problem with a prank where some little girl over-reacted and
her father picked her up and brought her closer to me so he could threaten to fight me in the parking lot is really grasping for straws. This is a country where kids wear costumes like that for fun. Where we buy animatronic Freddy and Jasons to put on our doosteps and hang dolls in nooses when Halloween rolls around, and often try to scare kids when they knock on the doors for candy.
And here's the funny thing: I wasn't even trying to scare anyone, I was just trying to prank the staff. It's pretty evident from the video that things did not go as planned.
If you're going to make an attack on my moral character you are going to have to do a lot better than pointing to some little girl over-reacting when I waved at her in a clown costume-- and left immediately after being asked to and have never done that particular prank ever again.
I'm sure there will be some kind of comment you want to make that you think is witty. Don't make it. I won't even read it this time. I sure won't respond to it either. Unable to delete this thread I am deleting this account. I have a lot I need to do before we start shooting the things we can already shoot (none of which are terribly impressive shots-- i.e. no fights since the costumes aren't finished) and I have no more time to waste trying to convince you that you went over the line too many times.
To be clear I am not upset because you don't want to pledge. I'm perfectly aware the majority of people who see the page will not.
My problem is with your attitudes toward a person trying to make a creative effort and you believing you that gives you the right to talk down under the guise of "constructive criticism".
Edit: Can't figure out how to delete the account. Blah.
