Guerilla Filmmaking in Kamen Rider

[Smilodon]

I also admire a lot of the stunts done in Kuuga-Agito. I guess we could chalk up bigger budgets and maybe more effort on the part of the production crew as it was the beginning of a revival but the argument of realism aside, Kuuga had some aggressive and innovative stunts.

But like it was mentioned earlier, most of the directors are the same, so it's probably just a general production thing that the producers want to change rather than the directors themselves. They're probably capable of it, it's just not how they do things anymore.

 

[rising7]

I liked it best with Agito, where some of the battle scenes, Gills, and the appearance of the Unknown as a sort of "animal zombie" came off more viscerally. I did not notice it as much after Ryuki, though (with Genocider's debut being my first real watch of heisei rider), so it somehow decreased in effectiveness for me over time.

 

[Glamador]

I also admire a lot of the stunts done in Kuuga-Agito. I guess we could chalk up bigger budgets and maybe more effort on the part of the production crew as it was the beginning of a revival but the argument of realism aside, Kuuga had some aggressive and innovative stunts.

We've never had another extended motorcycle battle of the sort since Kuuga's.

I find a *lot* of Rider shows (and the Sentai/MMPR I've seen) have pretty ridiculous combat flow. Ryuki is probably the worst offender in my mind, but so many of them end up doing it later on.

It's like...have any of you heard of BLOCKING? Grappling? Tumbling? The fights will so often substitute sparks and forced backsteps as a replacement for filming a punch that looks like it has impact. When Kuuga and Agito hit things (or got hit)...it looked like they fuckin' FELT THAT.

And I attribute a lot of that to how the shows were filmed. The angles and the cuts they used conveyed so much more of a brutality to the blows and make some of the modern fight scenes seem...idk, sterile by comparison.

 

[Shoichi]

ah then someone might have been concerned with the graphic violence levels...

 

[Vitor]

ah then someone might have been concerned with the graphic violence levels...

Pretty much all of the earlier shows distinctively had an older audience in mind. Volcancer devouring Scissors after he lost to Knight in Ryuki is pretty evident of that fact

 

[Glamador]

Pretty much all of the earlier shows distinctively had an older audience in mind. Volcancer devouring Scissors after he lost to Knight in Ryuki is pretty evident of that fact

Be careful not to apply western ideas of what's appropriate to the creators of KR. Showa Era series weren't aimed at older kids necessarily any more than they are today, but they had some seriously dark and violent elements. Just look at Amazon's finishers.

As foreigners we can't really speculate on whether it's the target demo that's changed or cultural norms overall. All we can say is that the style of filmmaking and portrayal of violence has changed over the years.

 

[Vitor]

Be careful not to apply western ideas of what's appropriate to the creators of KR. Showa Era series weren't aimed at older kids necessarily any more than they are today, but they had some seriously dark and violent elements. Just look at Amazon's finishers.

By "older children" I meant 10-12. And who said I was applying "western ideas" to anything? Please, I've watched enough anime and toku over the years to be acutely aware of the severe cultural differences between our two nations.

But seriously, compare that scene to anything from the later Heisei era shows and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[Japaneseseriesfan]

It's not just with Kamen Rider though. It seems that the Japanese media has over all toned down the violence. Dragonball Kai is a prime example. They pretty much reanimated the whole thing and erased any trace of blood spilling all over the place and just made it less badass.

 

[KingRanger]

We've never had another extended motorcycle battle of the sort since Kuuga's.

I guess in your hate of Blade 1-25 you never paid much attention.

 

[KingRanger]

Pretty much all of the earlier shows distinctively had an older audience in mind. Volcancer devouring Scissors after he lost to Knight in Ryuki is pretty evident of that fact

Site your proof of this belief.