Concerns I have re: Shout Factory's Kakuranger

[kuroihikari]

The problem with parentheses in the subs is that they can take up an unnecessarily huge space of the screen.

I say, for professional work, localize it as much as possible. That's how foreign-language films' subtitle for international awards are done. Even proper names that are supposed to mean something are translated when needed (i.e. if it's just a one-off joke that can be missed, just don't bother). Fansubbers don't have the luxury of foresight of which names are just simply proper names, or relevant to the plot, but professional subbers like Shout Factory do.

And frankly, no honorifics (in English). Honorifics in English are stupid, weaboo pandering that usually can be circumvented by more relevant English terms.

 

[Dr Kain]

Again, I disagree. There are moments where they leave in honorifics (again, with only extreme moderation). If Sentai means Squadron, the subs should say Squadron when they introduce themselves and say the show's name. And if Gosei means Five-Star, the subs should say Five-Star.

It's fine the way it is. It doesn't need to be translated. It would work either way, but they didn't and it doesn't matter because it is correct.

If anything, I find it weird that you're saying Byakko is incorrect when you're fine with treating things like the word "Sentai" as a proper name. Seems pretty inconsistent, but then again, I'm the guy who is okay with it as long we can have a little of both.

You didn't pay attention to anything I said.

The only point of confusion is they called the Byakkoshinken the White Tiger Sword in episodes 14, 15, and 17, but then start calling him Byakko for the rest of the show.

I have watched most of DaiRanger by now. To be fair, the show is enjoyable despite the weird things that are randomly left in the subs. Perfect? No. I would still prefer the team names are translated like I mentioned above. That doesn't stop me from enjoying the show, but that doesn't make the translation perfect.

The translation is fine. It's not perfect because no translation will ever be perfect. Even companies like Bandai have never had their subs perfect as they constantly spelled Zech's last name differently in their Gundam Wing subs (sometimes it was Merchise, then it would be Merquise, and then Marquise).

Dairanger is perfect in the sense that they translated the names that needed to be translated while leaving the ones that needed to be left alone alone.

 

[SamuraiEchidna]

The problem with parentheses in the subs is that they can take up an unnecessarily huge space of the screen.

The only time that might be a problem is when someone is talking at the same time as the introduction or if a song is being translated at the same time. If the name translation in parentheses is too long, just start it on a new line. When it comes to DVD's, I've seen up to 3 lines of text on the screen at one time (maybe more, but I can't think of a specific example). I think there is enough room for just a name and it's meaning.

Dairanger is perfect in the sense that they translated the names that needed to be translated while leaving the ones that needed to be left alone alone.

I've read everything you said and I'm trying to understand, but I still feel like I disagree. But I've said my peace, and we're at a cross roads. You stand by your beliefs, and I respect that, but I stand by mine. I really have nothing more to add to this conversation or this topic as a whole without constantly repeating myself. And I'm the guy who is trying NOT to be stubborn. I'm trying to accept all points of view as valid. I'm trying to find a compromise that everyone can agree with. But what I have to say keeps falling on deaf ears. Either way, I'm done. You're entitled to your points, others are entitled to theirs, and I'm entitled to mine.

 

[Edmond Dantes]

When it comes to DVD's, I've seen up to 3 lines of text on the screen at one time (maybe more, but I can't think of a specific example).

I can think of two--both by ADV, both mecha series that were used to create the series Carl Macek is most known for. One involves BEWARE OF THE SPORES and the other involves a female rock star who is actually a dude.

I think there is enough room for just a name and it's meaning.

Hell, you could always do what GoLion did--it always subbed Jyuohken as "King's Sword Jyuohken." Which tells you what the term means while also admitting that Jyuohken IS a proper name.

Altho technically Juu-Ou-Ken means "Sword of the Beast King," considering the show is already called Beast King Golion and he's wielding a King's Sword, I think it all words in a sort of putting-everything-together way.