Are western audiences so different from japan audiences regarding super sentais?

[jackhunter]

Hello, a common idea i read here when people try to defend a sentai or show that we dont like is "its intended for japan audiences, this is why the show is not supposed to please us but japanese people who are different from us"

But when i look into the past, i see that some shows were able to please both japanese and Europeans.

Liveman was popular in Europe and in Japan.Same goes for a lot of super sentais done before 1993.
After 1993, Sentais were made only for Japanese people,ok.
So is it a valid argument to say that we dont like Go busters for example,because we are european?

Another point that could counter this argument is the fact that we often agree to say that Eastern people try to imitate a lot Europeans in their way of life.
So are Japanese audiences that different from us when its about watching super sentais?

Shonen are popular both in Japan and outisde Japan,so it means there is something in it that pleases everyone.If we are able to like super sentais that were not intially made for us,like shinkenger, doesnt it mean that most of super sentais elements go beyond cultural differences?Something that could belong to a "global and economical view of the culture", that culture that is made for marketting(i am not implying this is bad).

Things like epicness, will to fight and win, courage, gorgeous graphic effects, have somehow gone universal after all.Some ideas we see in the latest Batman can be found in some shonen,etc.

 

[NateRiver]

It's usually because western audiences grew up with PR, which is a show intended for 3-10 year olds, so they assume that Sentai must also be a show for toddlers and that they're Chinese.I've also heard the "ALL JAPONES SHOWS R WEIRD LOL OXOX RANDOM HAR HAR HAR!!!#90s #CHILDHOODRUINED" excuse...

They also think Rider is Sentai.But that's another rant for another time.

 

[live jetabare]

It's usually because western audiences grew up with PR, which is a show intended for 3-10 year olds.

To be fair, Super Sentai is targeted for the same audience.
Besides, given how PR Samurai is basically a carbon copy of Shinkenger with Western looking actors :laugh:

 

[NateRiver]

Sentai does target the same audience, but also extends it to around the midteens range.After that, you look like a nerd, but still.

 

[Kamen Rider IXA]

It's usually because western audiences grew up with PR, which is a show intended for 3-10 year olds, so they assume that Sentai must also be a show for toddlers and that they're Chinese.I've also heard the "ALL JAPONES SHOWS R WEIRD LOL OXOX RANDOM HAR HAR HAR!!!#90s #CHILDHOODRUINED" excuse...

Oh.. and I thought only Russian tokucommunity have problems like this...

 

[Painted_Outlaw]

It's usually because western audiences grew up with PR, which is a show intended for 3-10 year olds, so they assume that Sentai must also be a show for toddlers

I've also seen a unfortunately-large amount of people go "OMG Guys, Saban turned Sentai into a babees show... look, Burai has such a deep story, it's dark and everything! Did your Tommy die? No? See, Brai better! And and, Gai in Jetman, he drinks and, dies. It's so serious and stuff, I hate Saban forever nao!!!11!"

 

[NateRiver]

Toku is in no way dark, but excessive puns in PR and goody goods annoy me.The closest thing to dark we can get in Toei toku not R rated would be Paradise Lost and even that movie's slightly lighthearted.I'll use Phineas and Ferb as an example.It's meant to be a children's show, airing on Disney and all that, yet its humor and plot can be enjoyed by all ages, something a show like Samurai fails in doing.

 

[jackhunter]

But lets take an anime like Naruto.Whether we like it or not i has met a huge success in the whole world.I am not sure that the author, when he wrothe the story, initially wanted to please Europeans or so, he just wrote a story.

What makes that anime can please everyone, and super sentais cannot?I am not sure its just the lack of marketting in Europe, because there are also animes that only air in Japan and that people manage to watch via streaming/downloading/anything else.

Maybe this is because only one super sentai is produced every year, so it s bound to be compared to the previous ones, when there are thousands of animes.

So because there are only 36 super sentais, people will focus their hate or love on a single of them, when you can just ignore a shonen among shonens?

 

[Loghorn]

It's usually because western audiences grew up with PR, which is a show intended for 3-10 year olds, so they assume that Sentai must also be a show for toddlers and that they're Chinese. I've also heard the "ALL JAPONES SHOWS R WEIRD LOL OXOX RANDOM HAR HAR HAR!!!#90s #CHILDHOODRUINED" excuse...

I'm sure that they haven't looked harder for good Japanese shows (such as animes like Sailor Moon with the original Japanese versions) & haven't realized that Super Sentai came first & were made in Japan by the Japanese. :laugh:

And I'm a westerner that grew up with PR.

To be fair, Super Sentai is targeted for the same audience.
Besides, given how PR Samurai is basically a carbon copy of Shinkenger with Western looking actors :laugh:

Agreed, though the difference is that most sentai's are more superior than the PR versions, with some exceptions like Ohranger, & Go-Onger. Even ones before Zyuranger was adapted as PR.

 

[Fox-Chan]

I can't speak of all European nations, but in the past they seemed to be quite alright with dubbed shows. Not sure how things usually go nowadays.

However, in the U.S, there seems to be some sort of reprehension towards foreign shows even ones that are in English. It works out well enough for anime because, in many shows that get releases here, the characters either don't look Japanese or are not Japanese at all.

Live-action shows are an entirely different matter, though.