Fascinating pretentious, tunnel visioned, asshattery Watson, enjoying your PHI 415? Because really a couple of college classes makes you know the secrets of the universe right? Because you're implying it does. In your entire pointless wall of text, most likely used to be "intimidating" instead of something relevant to your argument, you've yet to post ONE thing that would prove your argument as being correct. In fact you disproved yourself in the first paragraph. There is no evidence whatsoever that can prove or disprove the existence of you, me, parallel universes, or even anything that ever was. Hell I could pull the solipsism card and use that to claim you don't exist. But there's no evidence that can prove or disprove that. There's nothing to prove that your right or wrong, quit acting like your way of thinking is the only correct way.
Know one on this planet knows for certain if there are parallel universes or if the universe works like a poorly written SciFi show. Long story short, you don't know the secrets of the universe, quit acting like you do and deal with it.
I don't know what your image was my good man but I'm pretty sure it was something to make me feel like a smuck, which it most likely wouldn't.
here's an example why saying there are parallel worlds out there without a shred of evidence exists is horseshit in my humble opinion.
(we are in the middle of a court house, the judge is just about to sentence a man to life in jail for murdering someone. suddenly, a loony bashes through the door and walks up to the judge.)
Loony: hold the verdict! This man you're about to sentence is an innocent man!!
(gasps are heard through the courthouse.)
Judge: My word! Why is that!?
Loony: The real murderer was the Pope!!
(another gasp is heard.)
Judge: my word again! why, do you have any proof to your wild alagation!?
Loony: not a single one.
Judge: but surely you have some evidence atleast.
Loony: not a single thing. But, you can't prove that the pope DIDN'T murder this man now can you?
Judge: (contemplates.) well, that's good enough for me! case dismissed!
(end of scene.)
Now do you think this would be logical or reasonable at all my good man? Do you actually think that this could happen in an actual courtroom? Yet it is perfectly sound and fine in this situation? Just saying "it's possible" doesn't make it true in any way, it just means you think it's true. Once again: when making a claim, you must prove it. you haven't.
Yes, I don't know the secrets of the universe, nor do you mind you, but I have a goddamn good reason not to believe flying Giraffes are eating babies out of their cribs. Nor that a Giant Lobster is going to attack Seattle tomorrow. You see, when there is something that sounds really ridiculous and stupid and has no proof nor evidence to prove it is even remotely true, then it's most likely not true especially since there is no way to prove nor disprove it. At the end of the day, it becomes horseshit.
Listen, you can think that somewhere, in someplace, there is an earth where humanities #1 predator is a hamburger and Abraham Lincoln was an eight foot tall snowman. that's fine by me, go on ahead. I'm going to stick to my vary good principle of if I can't see it, touch it, hear it, nor feel it, it must not exist. If there was actual evidence which prove the claim by a good margin, I'd believe it but until then, my stance stays that it's horseshit.
Also, here's an assignment for you. Try next time not to use so many ad hominem and petty insults as you can. I know I'm somewhat guilty of the same charge but you're entire objection was nothing but that. you make no point other then "you don't know ****!" while you make no valid points why the theory could be true or evidence backing you up. You seem like an intelligent man but when you do this I just can't take you all that seriously my good friend.
I agree definitely. Unless you have proof that such an such exists , you cannot say it does until you show us so. For instance this librarian at my high believes that the loch ness monsters and Bigfoot do exist. While that may be possible, and while there is tangible evidence of a massive bipedal ape (Gigantopithecus) in asia that would've likely crossed the land bridge along with local legends, you still have to prove by verifiable evidence such as bones ,footprints and or live specimens in order to prove it real. The loch ness monster has only been known in legend, so it might or might've existed some long time ago but there's no verifiable proof in existence at this point of time.
How do we know we exist? Is it just because of our five instinctual senses tell us that what is in front us is the real reality? Here is my counter theory to you. Let's take the theory of the Matrix for example. All of our brains could all he hooked into a massive supercomputer far beyond our comprehension as is ,simulating even the slightest touch or brisk breeze. So as a result you cannot trust your senses entirely since everything is a simulation. So let's delve into this further. What if we are all living in a massive complex computer simulation made by post-human beings? We wouldn't know that since we'd be doing our own thing and even if we knew ,how could you get out of it since we would all be 0's and 1's and just massive code.
The enlightenment's philosophy is outdated but essential ,my good friend. Open your mind to the newer theories. You don't have to accept them ,but keeping an open mind has led us to progress so staying in the philosophical past is detrimental to each person's growth .
It makes me furious when people assume humans are dumb as **** and need some outside influence to help them ala aliens or gods. As you already know we as a race already lost a whole library of knowledge when religious zealots set it on fire and free thought was quashed ; And as such we are reinventing mostly what our ancestors already devised by themselves. How is it so incomprehensible to think that humans could've accomplished many great things before our time when few thousand years ago they were already building pyramids and complex statues. In fact when it came near to the first century AD, they had already invented the steam engine's forefather along with the basis of the plane.Is it because humans don't want to admit they are at fault for their own failure to advance? That lack of free thought and questioning the status quo is in itself a sin? If we did not get out of it ,we'd still be rolling in our own **** in a dark murky cave..
Sorry for not replying sooner Bigdog, I hadn't even known you posted asking me the question
. I tend to go to the last post and see if someone had asked me something. now on to your question. I hope you accept my apology though.
My problem with the multi-universe theory is that there has never been any evidence, sightings, eye-witness accounts, nor anything which makes it liable except that someone said "hey, maybe this is what's going on!" Alot of things which we have yet to explain; God, Aliens, Bigfoot, Ghosts and such-n-such atleast have some evidence to it. Not much Proof but atleast evidence. Sightings of Ghosts and Paranormal agencies, Plaster footprints of Bigfoot, people claiming to be abducted by aliens. Hell, why would a staunch atheist become a born-again!? why would we even have born-agains if there wasn't something to it. I'm not saying this proves any of this but atleast someone can claim that there is some evidence to help there claim.
The Matrix Theory has been well established for an unbelievable time and is one of the foundations of philosophy. Now, with the entire Cave allegory, we cannot prove it nor disprove it but the one thing it has as the Multi-universe theory has is that it's not full of holes like a piece of swiss-cheese.
Now, given that there are worlds where action are created as the complete opposite action of what we had once done, and since we are connected to universes where everything which happens in one world creates others, then it is only sound that there then must be a universe where there are no multiverses and it's the only universe to exist. that creates a vary big hole and could cause everything else to collapse. Also, when concidering god, there would be four universes on that subject: one where we worship god and he does exist, one where we do not pray to god and he does not exist, one where we pray to God and he does not exist and one where we do not pray to god and he does exist. With the parallel universe theory, all four of these must exist, since every thought, action and process creates multiple universes, so then we're going to have a vary big theological problem on our hands about this one. If one did believe in the multi-universe theory, then one would have to believe in god since the theory itself proves that there would, infact, be one. Also, If Occam's razor is put into the equaliton, then it is proven to be incorrect. Last, but not least, if the universe does act as such, each minute action creates the action once again, then hence we have to true form of freedom, no true free will, nothing but being pulled along so that the opposing consequences of another universe are enacted here, which, with the god equation, complicates things even more.
