X-Men/Claremont News

[Skinwalker]

The X-books are pretty terrible now yeah, mainly because of the editors with the sheer number of crossovers and creative limitations. Two or three of the writers simply seem to be turning in their scripts every month for a paycheck, one good writer was screwed over by crossovers and then screwed himself over with bad ideas, and shockingly the only consistently decent book is a Wolverine book (which isn't being put out as the main wolverine book...). And X-Factor is just another Peter David book, left behind being a 'noir' Z-list X-book to be some kind of mongrel Z-list Fantastic Four offshoot that doesn't know what it's doing...

 

[Skyknight]

I actually don't read the current X-books either. I'm just saying Claremont's last run wasn't too great, and X-Men Forever is mostly a vanity project

Marvel's whole modus operandi is "vanity project", it's like picking out an old, suitable motor out of a traffic jam.

Morrison's run was short-circuted by what Quesada wanted. If that guy had seen a shrink before he took the job of EIC, the level of the female body count would have been diminished.

And I feel Ultimate Spider-Man is better than either the strip or ASM.

I love that title too, though the newspaper strip really recaptures that sense of "reality" over the over-indulgent reality warps and discontent for continuity.

We're getting older and older. So eventually it will be a moot point. They need to move forward, not backwards.

I agree, complaining does make us come off as elder statesmen, but we're in a fairly acclerated period of change on a lot of fronts and the comic industry as a whole will one day be swallowed up in it. Marvel need to grow up and take back their responsibilites if they want to survive, not indulge what they want, it's what the fans want

 

[Blue Saint]

To be honest Claremont most of the time actually wants to try new ideas and dynamics with his stories, it is true that most of the time they are lacking something but at times he captures lightning (the Genosha Excalibur book is still a favorite of mine).

The problem with ASM is that they have taken the character too far from his roots and I don't mean marriage and having a stable job. He fights aliens and supernatural creatures, he is an Avenger (which is the worse thing they have ever done to him), and they have elevated him to much in the actual universe. He was famous but he wasn't important, but now he is in the center of everything which is a bad idea. Spider-Man is driven by his character and putting him in grand storylines is going to end up damaging the character more than anything. USM is good because there he is kept grounded, as soon as he gets away from that the book will start to suffer.

And the real problem with Marvel today is that the directions they go in is based on the views of creators and editors as fans first. There is no problem with having respect for a comic you are involved with but when your opinion as fan overrides everything else that is when you make bad decisions.

 

[MattComix]

Being an Avenger was one of the dumber ideas to come down the pike for Spider-Man. But Marvel is always topping themselves..

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Marvel-X-Men-Teasers-100409.html

 

[Ragna "D" BloodEdge]

I still think that whole random character insert campaign is a way to pull attention to the X-Men, which they really don't need to resort to anyway.

 

[Blue Saint]

Or it could be along the lines of "you may think we have purposely buried Marvel's premier franchise due to the EIC's odd hatred for it despite one of his first big breaks was being the artist on X-Factor with Peter David, but trust us we have had much worse ideas".

 

[MattComix]

But Spider-Man as a member of the X-Men? That's totally and indefensibly stupid. He is not a mutant. Period. It really is just fucking dumb.

 

[Skyknight]

...Frickin' Electra?

That reminds me of Tom DeFalco trying to pair her up with Wolverine in the 90s...and eventually paired 'em up in the MC2 continuity and producing a daughter, "Wild Thing"

 

[Ragna "D" BloodEdge]

Yeah, I remember that from her short-lived title back then. Mike Deodato's first post- Wonder Woman art gig.

And Spidey is a mutate. Not a mutant.

 

[MrMonk]

Interesting. Every teaser has been setup as 'X-Man & Non-X-Man'. Wonder if this is some sort of swerve.