Why no nextgen?

Vitor

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So with the 3DS and PSP2 announced, you'd think that there'd be some announcements for the things people actually care about (not trying to be harsh towards the handheld gamers), the next gen consoles

Well by being a constant lurker on DTOID, the companies' excuses have been varied, but most state that it's "because of the current economic disaster".

Okay then Sony, Nintendo, why are you bothering releasing the 3DS and the PSP2?

My question is do the companies have a 100% valid reason for not releasing the said console upgrades?
 
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I wouldn't count on next gen consoles being in stores until either 2012 or 2013. But, IMO, if any of the big three were to release any news about their next gen consoles, Nintendo would definitely be first. After all, the hardware on the Wii is very outdated by today's standards (not to say that the hardware for both the 360 & PS3 are any better, considering that they're at least one generation behind the PC, but Sony & Microsoft have already stepped up to the curve in terms of HD gaming, considering that HD is the standard over SD now).
 
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Well I've heard news from VGChartz that Nintendo has plans for the next system after the Wii. They said that it's gonna be more than just an "HD Wii", but they also said there is no release date or announcement anytime soon.

Not sure about 360, but according to Sony, the PS3 has a 10-year plan.

Take this with a grain of salt.
 
So with the 3DS and PSP2 announced, you'd think that there'd be some announcements for the things people actually care about (not trying to be harsh towards the handheld gamers), the next gen consoles

Well by being a constant lurker on DTOID, the companies' excuses have been varied, but most state that it's "because of the current economic disaster".

Okay then Sony, Nintendo, why are you bothering releasing the 3DS and the PSP2?

My question is do the companies have a 100% valid reason for not releasing the said console upgrades?

Because the handhelds sell better. The consoles are pretty much at a stand still as to what they can do with them. Graphics are at a point where they can't push them any longer.
 
Exactly. More games are developed for consoles and then ported to the PC, so it's much easier to just leave the consoles where they are because any upgrades you could do to the current hardware wouldn't make THAT MUCH of a difference.

I'm extremely happy about this, as consoles aren't y'know, cheap
 
If certain reports and theories are to be believed... you're kinda already looking at the "Next Gen" of the PS3 and 360 with the Move and Kinect.

As has been pointed out, console development, especially if you're always trying to use the newest, most expensive technology at the time, has gotten MUCH more expensive in recent years. Right now, both Sony and Microsoft are trying to find ways to extend the lives of their current consoles to avoid the costly development cycle as long as possible (especially since both their units are still being sold for a loss).

This is similar to the tactic that Sega employed with the Sega CD and 32X add-ons for the Genesis (though we all know how well THAT ended up working out...).

Nintendo is in a different situation, as, while their tech is less advanced, every unit sold is still at a profit (which they kind of have to do as, unlike their competitors, they don't have other business arms to mooch off of to keep them afloat if things get dicey). And while sales are certainly down from previous years, they're still at a level where there's no real need to bring out a new system yet.

As for "why handhelds" let us not forget that both the PSP and the DS are older than the current consoles and the amount you can extend their life cycle by has reached its limit.

After the complete disaster that was the PSPGo, Sony needs to do something big to revitalize their hand held efforts in the US (they lucked into Monster Hunter being a ridiculously huge smash in Japan but that can only sustain them so long) so it's time to cart out the newest, most advance hardware they can.

As for Nintendo, the DS is in the position that, while it still sells, its reached the point where its sales are dropping enough that it's time to go for the next thing (and the tech they want to use for the 3DS is proven enough that they can sell units for a profit).

TL;DR version: It's not yet time for consoles to need an upgrade, for handhelds, it is.
 
From developer to consumer NOBODY wants the next generation yet. My 360 is a fucking champion and I have no desire to have to worry about purchasing another system.
 
From developer to consumer NOBODY wants the next generation yet. My 360 is a fucking champion and I have no desire to have to worry about purchasing another system.

Much as I hate the 360, Keith's dead-on. The only people even asking about new systems are those who are just used to the cycle, or rich mofos who like buying stuff.

The reason Sony and Nintendo released new handhelds is because:

Well, for one, they're both Japanese companies, and in Japan, handhelds are what "people care about". When you aren't driving, they become SO much more convenient, which is why the biggest RPG in Japan (Dragon Quest) had a main installment put on the DS.

If I had to guess, given the sales of the DS in the west, both companies are banking on the technology being enough to make them equally viable to consoles here as well. Especially since both the PSP and the DS are older than all the new systems.

Plus, Sony and Microsoft both said they had no intention of releasing new systems for ten years after their systems came out. That puts a new Xbox at 2015, and a new PS at 2016--a good 4-5 years away, something I'm absolutely comfortable with.

TBH, the PS3's only just getting good with it's releases. They're finally releasing games I want to play on a regular basis.
 
From developer to consumer NOBODY wants the next generation yet. My 360 is a fucking champion and I have no desire to have to worry about purchasing another system.

That's my feeling as well. I have no desire to spend a bunch of money on a new system that at best will only be marginally better than what's out there now. I'll be perfectly happy waiting another five years or so for the next gen.
 

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