What PR means to us.

[Rainboy]

That's your feelings on the matter, but there are lots of things that have changed peoples lives. Playing the game Dragon Warrior 1 on NES changed mine. It's not really your place to tell people how they should feel about memories like this. I also find it some what insulting how you have worded what you said.

I'm not telling, merely suggesting. There is a difference. And I'm not sure what you found "insulting"...care to elaborate?

 

[KingRanger]

I'm not telling, merely suggesting. There is a difference. And I'm not sure what you found "insulting"...care to elaborate?

You seem to be talking down to people about something they care a great deal about.

 

[Rainboy]

You seem to be talking down to people about something they care a great deal about.

Getting married...having children...someone close to you dying...etc....these are examples of things that would change my life. But, Power Rangers...? Not so much. If it means that much to you, then that's completely fine. In none of my posts did I say that it's not fine. I just personally don't think it's "life altering"...and judging by the amount of people who actually posted in this thread regarding the topic at hand (2 members...?) I'd guess to say it hasn't changed too many peoples' lives. How that constitutes "talking down" to people is beyond me.

 

[HaiTien78]

PR Means either Power Rangers or Public Relations to me :rimshot:

 

[MattComix]

While my first exposure to tokusatsu was seeing SpecterMan, Ultraman, and Godzilla as a child (and also seeing Gatchaman in the hacked up form with BOTP got me enamored with the idea of the five-man martial arts superhero team), PR was still ultimately a gateway. But also a source of frustration that lead me running and screaming to the source material and actual tokusatsu. (The deadly combo of Bulk and Skull screentime cranked to upwards of 15 minutes per ep and then trying to tie together uniforms from one show with footage from another and then the arc for the Zeo crystals.)

So what PR means to me has some positive aspects and some very negative ones. Without it is likely I might not have ever found tokusatsu. It's brought a lot of other people to it as well and as I have posted before I respect that. As Keith himself said, it's a big part of the reason this place exists.

The other side of that though is that it's because of PR that I might never be able to just see my favorite tokusatsu shows in official subbed releases instead of filtered via "adaptation". Granted there are a few things out there like the Kikaida and V3 sets which are classics of course but I might never be able to just go to a Best Buy and pick up my own favorites. I can't buy TimeRanger or Maskman or now likely Kamen Rider Kuuga as well since Adness has taken the "adaptation" approach to and possibly owns the rights to doing anything with Kamen Rider in the states. That's not to knock KRDK, but because of KRDK you're not going to get Ryuki available outside of fandom circles or any other Heisei Rider show either.

This could change of course. Nothing is written in stone but to some extent at least, PR makes it very difficult to just be a tokusatsu fan. So that's something that I can't help but factor in with regards to what PR means to me even though I recognize and respect that it has been a gateway for so many people, myself included.

 

[Forever Knight]

PR Means either Power Rangers or Public Relations to me :rimshot:

:laugh:

That was just priceless.

 

[ryuuseipro]

While my first exposure to tokusatsu was seeing SpecterMan, Ultraman, and Godzilla as a child (and also seeing Gatchaman in the hacked up form with BOTP got me enamored with the idea of the five-man martial arts superhero team), PR was still ultimately a gateway. But also a source of frustration that lead me running and screaming to the source material and actual tokusatsu. (The deadly combo of Bulk and Skull screentime cranked to upwards of 15 minutes per ep and then trying to tie together uniforms from one show with footage from another and then the arc for the Zeo crystals.)

So what PR means to me has some positive aspects and some very negative ones. Without it is likely I might not have ever found tokusatsu. It's brought a lot of other people to it as well and as I have posted before I respect that. As Keith himself said, it's a big part of the reason this place exists.

The other side of that though is that it's because of PR that I might never be able to just see my favorite tokusatsu shows in official subbed releases instead of filtered via "adaptation". Granted there are a few things out there like the Kikaida and V3 sets which are classics of course but I might never be able to just go to a Best Buy and pick up my own favorites. I can't buy TimeRanger or Maskman or now likely Kamen Rider Kuuga as well since Adness has taken the "adaptation" approach to and possibly owns the rights to doing anything with Kamen Rider in the states. That's not to knock KRDK, but because of KRDK you're not going to get Ryuki available outside of fandom circles or any other Heisei Rider show either.

This could change of course. Nothing is written in stone but to some extent at least, PR makes it very difficult to just be a tokusatsu fan. So that's something that I can't help but factor in with regards to what PR means to me even though I recognize and respect that it has been a gateway for so many people, myself included.

I wouldn't say that Power Rangers was a gateway to tokusatsu, but it made it more acceptable in the US (but people still only recognize it as a superhero genre, and not a special effects medium). Before that, it was Godzilla, Ultraman, and other Japanese sci-fi movies & shows that made it here (in context of TV shows, it's only a handful, in comparison to the near-hundred shows most Americans have never seen).

I never once needed Power Rangers to be introduced to tokusatsu. When Power Rangers first came out, I was insulted, because I had already seen Zyuranger a year before (and was already familiar with Super Sentai, thanks to Dynaman), and considered it to be an infinitely superior program. Power Rangers, in comparison, was an embarrassment and insult to the original. While it's "cool" to most people here, I still see it as a bastardization of Super Sentai (which, itself, is not getting any better now).

What does PR mean to me? Not very much.

 

[Punk]

I wouldn't say that Power Rangers was a gateway to tokusatsu, but it made it more acceptable in the US (but people still only recognize it as a superhero genre, and not a special effects medium). Before that, it was Godzilla, Ultraman, and other Japanese sci-fi movies & shows that made it here (in context of TV shows, it's only a handful, in comparison to the near-hundred shows most Americans have never seen).

I never once needed Power Rangers to be introduced to tokusatsu. When Power Rangers first came out, I was insulted, because I had already seen Zyuranger a year before (and was already familiar with Super Sentai, thanks to Dynaman), and considered it to be an infinitely superior program. Power Rangers, in comparison, was an embarrassment and insult to the original. While it's "cool" to most people here, I still see it as a bastardization of Super Sentai (which, itself, is not getting any better now).

Zyuranger and Sentai isn't the greatest thing since the Internet. Sentai isn't all that and I personally think It wasn't any different from Sentai just made to fit the american audience.

Example: Lost Galaxy was a hell of alot better than Gingaman. Same goes for GoGoV.

 

[JettoJaguar]

PR means nothing to me, it didnt even introduced me to tokusatsu. I dont even like japanese sentai.

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

Don't really care for PR. I'm what's known as a "sentai snob." I grew up with sentai in the '80s, so when advertisements for PR aired, I recognized it as obviously coming from those shows I had loved. From the start, I knew PR was heavily diluted in comparison to the originals. The typical case of showrunners having no faith in their audience or the source material.

I think PR has really hindered what the sentai franchise has done, from the lack of action to the reduction of villain characters, to the Disney influenced themes the past several sugary shows have taken. PR has negatively influenced the way sentai -- most tokusatsu -- is seen outside of Japan.

But on the other hand, without PR, the English speaking population of henshin heroes would most likely be severely low. There's many cool people out there who wouldn't know about tokusatsu or henshin heroes if not for PR introducing them, and the availability of merchandise or episodes would also be reduced.