Unofficial Sentai Akibaranger Season 2 - Discussion Thread

I noticed Over-Time has started adding notes to the recent episodes of Akibaranger that didn't already have them. Regarding said notes for Episode #12 I have a question which I already posted in their comment section but would like to reiterate here since I know some of their members are also members of this forum.

Here is the note in question:

4:51 Prism Ace is an obvious reference to the Ultraman series, but also an old Toho property called Megaloman. Toho made a series of noteworthy TV shows in the late 70s, so it could get a cut of the money to be made from the ongoing superhero boom. Megaloman combined elements of both Super Sentai and the “giant hero” subgenre, featuring a quintet of heroes, and a protagonist who could grow to giant size to battle monsters. Megaloman had a flowing mane much like Prism Ace’s, as well as a similar design and color scheme. He fought enemies with kung fu and burning fire attacks. The show ran for 31 episodes in 1979. Although Megaloman is historically an important show in some ways, it’s always been overshadowed by its “older siblings” Rainbowman and Ryusei Ningen Zone (a.k.a. Zone Fighter, which featured a Godzilla cameo). Although Megaloman has been rerun a few times, it never grew popular enough to merit a home video release in any format. So don’t feel bad if you’ve never seen Megaloman… most people in Japan haven’t, either!

And my question is "Why Megaloman?" I mean why are you so sure that Prism Ace is a reference specifically to Megaloman? The only reason given is that he has a mane, but there are a lot of other “Giant Heroes” who have had similar glam rocker locks; P Productions Ambassador Magma and Toho’s Godman being two that spring to mind. Considering this it seems odd that you would zero in on Megaloman who, as you note, is obscure even to Japanese tokusatsu fans and isn’t even a Tsuburaya or Toei character. It seems to me that Prism Ace is just suppose to be a spoof of Giant Heroes in general, with the focus being those from TPC in particular, so again I’m curious as to why you think Megaloman is being referenced directly here?
 
there are a lot of other “Giant Heroes†who have had similar glam rocker locks; P Productions Ambassador Magma and Toho’s Godman being two that spring to mind. Considering this it seems odd that you would zero in on Megaloman who, as you note, is obscure even to Japanese tokusatsu fans and isn’t even a Tsuburaya or Toei character. It seems to me that Prism Ace is just suppose to be a spoof of Giant Heroes in general, with the focus being those from TPC in particular, so again I’m curious as to why you think Megaloman is being referenced directly here?

Megaloman looks the most similar. Godman and Ambassador Magma have obvious differences to Prism Ace in terms of appearance, but Megaloman looks very similar. I would say it's Megaloman too. He's the only one of those that you mentioned that looks very similar.
 
Megaloman looks the most similar. Godman and Ambassador Magma have obvious differences to Prism Ace in terms of appearance, but Megaloman looks very similar. I would say it's Megaloman too. He's the only one of those that you mentioned that looks very similar.

Not really...

Here's Prism Ace:

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Here's Megaloman:

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Going off the face alone Prism Ace looks more like Toho's Greenman:

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Though there are some similarities to Tsuburaya's Mirrorman too:

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And with the red, blue and silver color scheme he's more like one of the recent Ultras such as Tiga:

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or Zero:

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And here's Ambassador Magma and Godman who have the same crazy hair:

Magma:

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Godman:

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^ Godman also has a belt like Prism Ace.

Again I really think Prism Ace is meant to be an amalgamation of all these types of characters rather then one in particular.
 
Looks like a mix of the Ultras, Megaloman, and maybe Greenman (just because of the face). Everything else is so far off.
That's probably on purpose. I doubt Tsuburaya would have approved an actual cameo, or even something that looked very much like it could be an actual Ultraman (correct colour scheme etc), given that the content includes obvious Chaiyo references and makes their Ultra-Ersatz into a bad guy (yes the character is still a hero but it's very existence is portrayed as a threat to the Akibarangers' world and the entire Super Sentai franchise) who ends up getting his ass kicked.
 
Shouldn't Chaiyo be bankrupt by now then?

Why would they be? People are actively licensing from them. They've probably made some bank off of the recent Ultraman and Ultraseven sets, and an Ultra Q set is forthcoming.

Is it wrong that I feel a little bad for Prism Ace himself?

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure this is why the Akibarangers have to die in the ending, so they face some actual consequences for intentionally murdering another hero. Dying in a battle with an enemy they invented purely as an excuse to go kill Prism Ace is a pretty fitting irony.

Then you had the "Watch TV Asashi every sunday!" Which just seemed like shameless advertising for the main sentai series.

I really kind of wonder if this plot grew out of the "Oh gnoes, Sentai will be canceled!" hysteria that swept the fandom when we were getting regular reports about how terrible Go-Busters's ratings were. Given that Arakawa is a pretty famously slow writer, I bet a lot of these scripts would've been written last year, at the height of that.

If you look at it that way, it's clearer how Akagi's last words are a joke: he's pointing out that if people would just watch Sentai every week, they'd never need to panic about the franchise being canceled. In that regard, maybe Arakawa (via Akagi) is chiding the Japanese fans who refused to support Go-Busters?

Maybe he wanted to take a jab at Toshiki Inoue, killing the main characters after the threat is over totally sounds like something he would do.

I don't think so in this case. In general, I wouldn't expect Arakawa to take "jabs" at Inoue, since the two are reputed to be friends. Arakawa certainly referenced a lot of Inoue's Sentai writing pretty lovingly this season.

For a long time now, toku shows are stepping stones for aspiring actors and idols, and while Luna's characterization was an exaggerated case, that mindset is not all that uncommon, and not all that off the mark.

Yeah, I don't think Luna was meant to insult the departing Akiba Blue specifically. I think that, in general, Arakawa is satirizing the fact that nobody respects or cares about the hero shows... until they need them to advance their career. In that regard, given Arakawa's experiences, she might be more of a stab at Odagiri Jou than anyone else.

And my question is "Why Megaloman?"

My question is, "Why so rude?" Seriously, why did you assume we were ignorant morons instead of looking up actual details of Megaloman's show? Then it'd be quite clear to you why it's Megaloman and not these other guys. You're clearly capable of doing that, if you already know about guys like Godman and Greenman.

Remember, we write our notes for an audience with no knowledge that any of these guys exist, and there was no need to confuse them with such extraneous information. We only wanted to tell them basic facts about things relevant to the Akibaranger episodes themselves. Heck, a lot of our audience didn't know anything about the Chaiyo case at all, and frankly, the lion's share of my research for episode 12's notes went into that.

Looking at the Megaloman notes, though, I see a pretty important part of the logic was maybe not emphasized enough. Megaloman WAS NOT chosen based on his appearance alone, as you have assumed. He was chosen because Megaloman's show is broadly known to incorporate influences from Super Sentai (I believe to compete with Battle Fever J, which was on at the same time). I have edited the notes to emphasize this, so they will not traumatize any other rabid Godman fans who happen to see them.

The show combined its Science Police surrogate with the idea of Sentai's five-man hero team, with the leader growing into a giant instead of the team summoning a robot. To my knowledge, there are no Super Sentai elements present in the likes of Greenman, Godman, Mirrorman, or Ambassador Magma. These characters all either predate the franchise itself, or its enduring popularity. They would have no relevance to Super Sentai, and there would be no reason to pattern an Akibaranger character after them. It's very logical for it to be a "giant hero" who was also part of a Sentai knock-off, though.

I completely reject that Zero and Tiga's appearances are relevant to Prism Ace's design at all. I do not believe for one second that the character is meant as a mockery of actual Ultraman. Arakawa's life's dream is to work for Tsuburaya, for pity's sake. It's obvious that Prism Ace is a mockery of crude imitation "heroes" that try to capitalize on the success of better, more expertly-crafted works.
 
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Umm, wait a minute.

If Akibarangers really died, then that means the whole VS movie happens in their "real life", which means not just they transformed in real life instead of in delusion world, but also, they actually did a giant vs giant fight in real life. I wonder how the news will react to the giant vs giant fight :P

Also, Hiroyo would eventually have to explain their death to Akagi, Luna, and Yuko's family, as their family would eventually look for them and may eventually find the Sentai Cafe....








On second thought, maybe I'm just thinking too much about it :sweat:
 
My question is, "Why so rude?" Seriously, why did you assume we were ignorant morons instead of looking up actual details of Megaloman's show? Then it'd be quite clear to you why it's Megaloman and not these other guys. You're clearly capable of doing that, if you already know about guys like Godman and Greenman.

Seriously? I mean I'm a little shocked here with regard to this rather hostile response. What part of my original question was "rude" exactly? Where did I insinuate that you or anyone else doing the notes for Over-Time were "ignorant morons"?

I simply asked "Why Megaloman?" as oppose to other "Giant Heroes." I never even said that I thought you were wrong about claiming that Prism Ace was directly based on Megaloman, I just wanted additional clarifications.

Frankly this here would have sufficed:

Looking at the Megaloman notes, though, I see a pretty important part of the logic was maybe not emphasized enough. Megaloman WAS NOT chosen based on his appearance alone, as you have assumed. He was chosen because Megaloman's show is broadly known to incorporate influences from Super Sentai (I believe to compete with Battle Fever J, which was on at the same time). I have edited the notes to emphasize this, so they will not traumatize any other rabid Godman fans who happen to see them.

The show combined its Science Police surrogate with the idea of Sentai's five-man hero team, with the leader growing into a giant instead of the team summoning a robot. To my knowledge, there are no Super Sentai elements present in the likes of Greenman, Godman, Mirrorman, or Ambassador Magma. These characters all either predate the franchise itself, or its enduring popularity. They would have no relevance to Super Sentai, and there would be no reason to pattern an Akibaranger character after them. It's very logical for it to be a "giant hero" who was also part of a Sentai knock-off, though.

And even those two paragraphs are filled with an unnecessary amount of snark. I only "assumed" that Megaloman was chosen based solely on his appearance because as you admit that was the only justification you initially gave having neglected to elaborate on the various Super Sentai elements the show borrowed.

Perhaps me questioning your notes hurt your pride, but if you don't want them questioned by those few people who, like yourself, actually know something about this stuff then don't put them up.

No offense was ever intended, but some is taken now.
 
Lynxara said:
Yeah, I don't think Luna was meant to insult the departing Akiba Blue specifically. I think that, in general, Arakawa is satirizing the fact that nobody respects or cares about the hero shows... until they need them to advance their career. In that regard, given Arakawa's experiences, she might be more of a stab at Odagiri Jou than anyone else.

I completely disagree. Considering that, if memory serves correctly, Kyoko Hinami herself claimed months ago she had no interest in doing a second season so she could pursue a higher acting career (aka: starring in what look to be blatantly sexist films like Princess Sakura) probably hurt Arakawa because he poured a lot of work into growing her character in season one. His resentment is so clear that he not only writes her out the exact same way that AkibaRed was "written out" in season one, but she is barely even mentioned again until the final episodes. It also doesn't help that we didn't even know she was even going to be in the first episode in any sort of capacity until two or three weeks before it aired.

For that reason, I can't see why Luna wouldn't be a direct jab at Kyoko Hinami because of what happened. I don't think it's meant to be aimed at Jo Odagiri or Takeru Sato or anyone else because:

a) Sato continued playing Ryotaro for almost a full year after Den-O ended, so he clearly treasured the role but knew when it was time to move on.
b) Yuusuke's character arc was complete. There wasn't a direct cry from Kuuga itself to get a sequel at the end of the series. Mitsuki's arc was still a work-in-progress and the fact that Hinami gave that up to try and became a by-the-numbers J-idol (like Luna desires to be) just sells me as Arakawa being resentful and creating Luna as nothing more but a shallow, selfish, dumb as bricks punching bag.

I hated Luna's character for that very reason and not once cared whenever she was on screen because her character only existed to attack and insult Kyoko Hinami (and even if she was meant to attack other actors, it still is an extremely silly reason to create a character we're supposed to root for) for leaving the show. Hell, Arakawa seems so disinterested in developing Luna that her "rival" is completely dropped and never mentioned again after just one episode.
 
What part of my original question was "rude" exactly? Where did I insinuate that you or anyone else doing the notes for Over-Time were "ignorant morons"?

Your initial response does kind of work from the proposition that the translators saw the hair as the only connection and didn't do any further research, carrying the implication that they are "ignorant" with it.

Given how much of a project it can be to hunt down a lot of information about AkibaRangers references, your comment does come off as somewhat insulting, whether you meant it that way or not.

Hell, Arakawa seems so disinterested in developing Luna that her "rival" is completely dropped and never mentioned again after just one episode.

Sorta like how the original AkibaBlue's "rival" shows up for a one episode thing and is then never seen again? :laugh:

If Luna was meant as a slam on Kyoko Hinami, Arakawa would have been much more specific in his snark. As enjoyable as he can be, the man just isn't that subtle a writer.

Instead, it really does just seem a jab at the idol industry's use of Sentai in general.
 

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