poll: kamen rider kabuto v shadow moon

[Sage Shinigami]

I was wondering that too. What I was really wondering about though is the way you say you can prove who would win.

Comparison feats? I'm pretty sure you could do it too, if you wanted. But you're set on telling everyone they're only capable of picking their favorites. And this whole, "the Zecters are technology" thing is BS. If they are its alien/future tech, both of which can match magic. The Zectors seem/are sentient, and appear seemingly out of nowhere, just because they're called for. Regular tech can't pull that off.

Edit: And Igadevil's comic = PWN! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Bolt]

Comparison feats? I'm pretty sure you could do it too, if you wanted. But you're set on telling everyone they're only capable of picking their favorites.

Well but I mean, comparison feats don't mean anything in two entirely seperate universes. Like has been said, one Rider's enemies may be stronger than the other's, one may be more limited in terms of advancement, etc. It's just too variable to come to a feasible conclusion, that's why I stand by my theory that usually people will try to milk whatever powers their favorite has to in that way lead them to victory.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

Well but I mean, comparison feats don't mean anything in two entirely seperate universes. Like has been said, one Rider's enemies may be stronger than the other's, one may be more limited in terms of advancement, etc. It's just too variable to come to a feasible conclusion, that's why I stand by my theory that usually people will try to milk whatever powers their favorite has to in that way lead them to victory.

Well 120 pounds should be the same in either universe, I would think. You take concrete facts. Like a monster from Black being able to lift a building. Or a Worm smacking a Rider into a building and only making a small indent in it. Its a really painful process (sometimes involves using...*gasp*...math and physics), but I've seen it done. Someone used it to prove exactly how fast DekaBreak is when he uses his Throttle. But I think that's just a little much for a versus thread, don't you? :laugh:

 

[Kenro]

Comparison feats? I'm pretty sure you could do it too, if you wanted. But you're set on telling everyone they're only capable of picking their favorites. And this whole, "the Zecters are technology" thing is BS. If they are its alien/future tech, both of which can match magic. The Zectors seem/are sentient, and appear seemingly out of nowhere, just because they're called for. Regular tech can't pull that off.

Bull nothing its a valid point. With magic you can pull anything out of your ass and make it work. It's the same type of magic that made Black surive being thrown into the sun. The Magic in Kamen Rider Black shouldn't be so easily dismissed. We've seen the belts in Kabuto get damaged -it's happened. Also the kaijin in Black were worshipped as gods. There is a substantial difference between the the worms in kabuto and the kaijin in black (yeah they have their own names but I can't rememeber it).

 

[Sage Shinigami]

Bull nothing its a valid point. With magic you can pull anything out of your ass and make it work. It's the same type of magic that made Black surive being thrown into the sun. The Magic in Kamen Rider Black shouldn't be so easily dismissed. We've seen the belts in Kabuto get damaged -it's happened. Also the kaijin in Black were worshipped as gods. There is a substantial difference between the the worms in kabuto and the kaijin in black (yeah they have their own names but I can't rememeber it).

Its not a valid point since you can't prove ZECT isn't using some odd form of alien or future tech, both of which are about the same as magic. And yeah, we saw the belt get damaged. And then in the same episode the belt was fixed without any explanation. Black was thrown into the sun, and Kabuto appears

[HIDE]to have the ability to **** with time however he wants in Hyper form[/HIDE]. So yeah. Have fun with working that out. I like/prefer Iga's method. :laugh:

 

[Kenro]

Its not a valid point since you can't prove ZECT isn't using some odd form of alien or future tech, both of which are about the same as magic. And yeah, we saw the belt get damaged. And then in the same episode the belt was fixed without any explanation. Black was thrown into the sun, and Kabuto appears

[HIDE]to have the ability to **** with time however he wants in Hyper form[/HIDE]. So yeah. Have fun with working that out. I like/prefer Iga's method. :laugh:

That's assuming the hyper zect powers would work on him. It's all assumption. That's the the wierd thing about magic in these things. There I just worked it out. :laugh: Your trying to fixate on a point that can't be measured. Now remember I never said that Shadowmoon could beat Kabuto. It's just that I notice that people who haven't seen Black are dismissing it as if it's not even as issue, as if it were some kind of forgone conclusion.

Black was thrown into the sun, and Kabuto appears

And Black RX came out and he's as powerfull a character as your ever going to find.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

That's assuming the hyper zect powers would work on him. It's all assumption. That's the the wierd thing about magic in these things. There I just worked it out. :laugh: Your trying to fixate on a point that can't be measured.

.......Wow. That's retarded. "It wouldn't work on him, 'cause its MAGIC!" :redface2: Bullshit. You can't just decide that Kabuto's powers won't work on Shadowmoon, and SM's powers won't work on Kabuto. This is the same as mattcomics complaining that heroes wouldn't really fight each other. MAYBE not but in a versus thread they would, just like in a versus thread any and all the powers both sides have should work.

Now remember I never said that Shadowmoon could beat Kabuto. It's just that I notice that people who haven't seen Black are dismissing it as if it's not even as issue, as if it were some kind of forgone conclusion.

I never said Kabuto could beat SM either. I just noticed that it seemed like people wanted to say SM 'cause he's from the best Toku EVAR, KR Black. Then a few people tried do what you're doing for Shadowmoon. Except in THEIR case, it was necessary. :anime:

And Black RX came out and he's as powerfull a character as your ever going to find.

Black and Black RX aren't even involved, really....

 

[Bolt]

Black and Black RX aren't even involved, really....

I think what he means is that if Shadow Moon is powerful enough to be an unsurpassable obstacle for someone as strong as Black/RX, then he can be regarded as that much more dangerous.

 

[Sage Shinigami]

I think what he means is that if Shadow Moon is powerful enough to be an unsurpassable obstacle for someone as strong as Black/RX, then he can be regarded as that much more dangerous.

Okay, I get that. But its too late. They blew up the world already. :laugh:

 

[Kenro]

.......Wow. That's retarded. "It wouldn't work on him, 'cause its MAGIC!" :redface2: Bullshit. You can't just decide that Kabuto's powers won't work on Shadowmoon, and SM's powers won't work on Kabuto. This is the same as mattcomics complaining that heroes wouldn't really fight each other. MAYBE not but in a versus thread they would, just like in a versus thread any and all the powers both sides have should work.



I never said Kabuto could beat SM either. I just noticed that it seemed like people wanted to say SM 'cause he's from the best Toku EVAR, KR Black. Then a few people tried do what you're doing for Shadowmoon. Except in THEIR case, it was necessary. :anime:



Black and Black RX aren't even involved, really....

Oh and you can assume that Kabuto's clock-up can work on Shadowmoon? What assumption is a one way street? I don't think so. As grandmother use to say to believe that assumption is a one way street is truly "retarded". The same type of powers that black has is the same that Shadowmoon has so I don't see how it wouldn't be the same -same origin even. Still have you seen Black?