OhRanger Discussion

KouAidou said:

Ironically I've read that while the ratings fell drastically after the tone shift, the toy sales picked up massively. This played a big role in Toei's decision to make Sentai more and more kid-oriented, and start putting more emphasis on the toys.

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After Double, you'd think that Toei would try and go back to Sentai's darker roots

Vitor said:

After Double, you'd think that Toei would try and go back to Sentai's darker roots

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Maybe.

KingRanger said:

I couldn't disagree more. The show did have a change yes, but that didn't take away from it at all.

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It does when one episode you have a possessed man trying to kill himself and spare himself the pain, and the next a clownishly-dressed bald man cha-cha-cha-ing away. Obviously the intended direction rears its head throughout the show, but it doesn't help when it keeps sharply going back and forth between tones and lacking much overarching plot.

Black Fang said:

It does when one episode you have a possessed man trying to kill himself and spare himself the pain, and the next a clownishly-dressed bald man cha-cha-cha-ing away. Obviously the intended direction rears its head throughout the show, but it doesn't help when it keeps sharply going back and forth between tones and lacking much overarching plot.

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It's all just a matter of.. .OPINION :thumbs:

I thought Ohranger was a really awesome season.

The special effects, choreography, and imaginative mecha are definitely up there as some of Sentai's bests. Even if it wasn't a martial arts season like Maskman, Dairanger, and Gekiranger, it's definitely got martial arts action on their level. And the Baranoia machines were all very well crafted.

The characters are lots of fun. And it also helps that all five of them really know how to act.

Each plot in each episode is lots of fun. Reminds me of the 80s Sentai. Some eps are dark, serious, and intense. While other eps are just crazy, goofy fun.

And the finale is one of the best finales ever. I loved the whole take over the world plot.

The music in this show is easily some of the best in the sentai franchise.

Ah, I love the 90s.

KingRanger said:

It's all just a matter of.. .OPINION :thumbs:

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Thanks, but I think we're all aware of that.

Fantasy Leader said:

I thought Ohranger was a really awesome season.

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While I agree with others that Ohranger wasn't a very good show for reasons already cited, it was indeed fun to watch.

Fantasy Leader said:

The special effects, choreography, and imaginative mecha are definitely up there as some of Sentai's bests. Even if it wasn't a martial arts season like Maskman, Dairanger, and Gekiranger, it's definitely got martial arts action on their level.

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I liked that too, particularly because it wasn't a martial arts-themed show. A martial arts secondary "motif" can fit into almost any show.

Fantasy Leader said:

And the Baranoia machines were all very well crafted.

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The grunts, definitely, and some of the MachineJuu. But a lot of them were odd to downright silly. BaraBaby, anyone?

Fantasy Leader said:

The characters are lots of fun. And it also helps that all five of them really know how to act.

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I think Ohranger's and Kakuranger's casts are among the most likeable in Sentai. Oh's characters may have been static for the most part, but you could still see hints of where the writers possibly wanted to go with them. Shouhei and Juri seemingly kept being implied, for instance.

Fantasy Leader said:

Each plot in each episode is lots of fun. Reminds me of the 80s Sentai. Some eps are dark, serious, and intense. While other eps are just crazy, goofy fun.

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That's the whole point, though. As Shougo pointed out, the show starts off well and then becomes heavily schizophrenic. To suddenly go from those first few great episodes to.... Juri and Momo channeling Richard Simmons with the mecha?

Fantasy Leader said:

And the finale is one of the best finales ever. I loved the whole take over the world plot.

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Yes! A Doomsday scenario where the villains actually win... at least for a while.

Fantasy Leader said:

The music in this show is easily some of the best in the sentai franchise.

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Right again. I wonder why Seiji Yokoyama hasn't worked on any toku after Ohranger.

It's funny to mention the BaraBaby episode since that is the last one on the volume. Yes, I do admit, that is one of the worst episodes in the series, and maybe one of the worst Sentai episodes when taken as a standalone. However, while there are some rediculous monsters like the water horse thing, at least he isn't a giant walking box of sobo noodles.

I think virtually every sentai series would have an episode or two where the writer seemingly decides to forego weed and instead take a whiff from a car's exhaust pipe while sniffing gluesticks in each nostril. Even my beloved Bioman has plots like EXPLODING BALLOONS and EXPLODING FLOWERS.

I guess what's important is whether or not a show is meant to be serious or not... Goggle Five's plots were ludicrous (the ones I remember) but that was the general tone of the series. I guess what people didn't like about Ohranger was indeed that, the inconsistency. Other examples include JAKQ... started out dark and ended up being arguably goofier than Goranger

Kouji Kabuto said:

I think virtually every sentai series would have an episode or two where the writer seemingly decides to forego weed and instead take a whiff from a car's exhaust pipe while sniffing gluesticks in each nostril. Even my beloved Bioman has plots like EXPLODING BALLOONS and EXPLODING FLOWERS.

I guess what's important is whether or not a show is meant to be serious or not... Goggle Five's plots were ludicrous (the ones I remember) but that was the general tone of the series. I guess what people didn't like about Ohranger was indeed that, the inconsistency. Other examples include JAKQ... started out dark and ended up being arguably goofier than Goranger

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Thing is with JAKQ was because the original underlining message was about Drugs, and many thought that was too dark for kids and lost quite a bit of ratings after it switched tones, which is why it's the shortest sentai with only 35 episodes, next to fiveman which only has 48.

I think a lot of it has to do with change. You change things to rapidly, people get really upset. Which why Ohranger failed was because of it's rapidly changing tone in each episode. There nothing wrong with having a show be funny and serious, many sentai shows do it, you just don't wanna have something like, one arc about a death of a friend and in like the next episode have something wacky and zany.