Kore wa Nandesuka?

[Michael Joe Red Mask]

Just because I'm takinga Japanese class doesn't mean I've just become more fluent than Junichiro Koizumi himself. :rolleyes2:

I've just finished Intermediate Class and next year I'm taking Intermediate class again because the teacher said Basic Conversation class is suitable only for people who've been to Japan before, which I have not yet done.

I know that it doesn't make you fluent. But most of the Kanji characters (such as Sentai, etc.) that he used shouldn't be a problem for you at all.:rolleyes2:

But I don't really care what you want to do. Do whatever you want. Like Kyo said, online translators are unreliable. Online translators will just hinder you in learning the language unless you want to speak Japanese like Tarzan.

 

[Black Ranger RX]

I know that it doesn't make you fluent. But most of the Kanji characters (such as Sentai, etc.) that he used shouldn't be a problem for you at all.:rolleyes2:

But I don't really care what you want to do. Do whatever you want. Like Kyo said, online translators are unreliable. Online translators will just hinder you in learning the language unless you want to speak Japanese like Tarzan.

Another problem is, my Computer still can't be able to read Kanji. Everytime Kyo types something in Japanese it will come out on my computer as..

??????????????????????????????????????

My dad's promised to get the Japanese language program installed on my computer but he still never did it.

Plus, I've still not started learning to read Kanji yet. I'm only good (ish) at Hirigana and I'm trying to practice Katakana right now by myself.

 

[Kyusaku]

Wow, that must be a weak-ass intermediate class. If you are using Firefox instead of IE, you can probably read the text just by going to View>Character Encoding>>Auto-Detect>Japanese. If you're not using firefox, you should. In Opera it's View>Encoding>Japanese>Auto-detect.

 

[kyo28]

View>Encoding>Japanese>Auto-detect.

I think for virtually every browser out there this option is available and should work, unless you're working with ancient tech (I.E. v3.x ancient)

Wow, that must be a weak-ass intermediate class.

I'm intermediate level :laugh:

 

[Black Ranger RX]

Wow, that must be a weak-ass intermediate class. If you are using Firefox instead of IE, you can probably read the text just by going to View>Character Encoding>>Auto-Detect>Japanese. If you're not using firefox, you should. In Opera it's View>Encoding>Japanese>Auto-detect.

I tried that and I could still only see "???????????".

And a "weak-ass" intermediate class it may be, but it's the only one I've got (at least where I live). There are some others but they're only available to University students, and I've left College about 2004/2005. There are no Japanese classes in my Colleges.

 

[kyo28]

I tried that and I could still only see "???????????".

Tell me exactly which browser and version you have, as well as your operating system (version + language). I might be able to help you...

 

[Black Ranger RX]

Tell me exactly which browser and version you have, as well as your operating system (version + language). I might be able to help you...

Brower: Mozilla Firefox
Version: 1.0.7

This is all I know..

 

[JFC]

/me :laugh:'s @ the online translator coming up with "Jewish Rangers"

 

[Kyusaku]

And a "weak-ass" intermediate class it may be, but it's the only one I've got (at least where I live). There are some others but they're only available to University students, and I've left College about 2004/2005. There are no Japanese classes in my Colleges.

Well my issue is they really shouldn't be calling it "intermediate", but rather Beginner lvl 2 or something.

Some universities let you take courses over the summer without having to be a regular accepted student of the university. You should probably look into that.

The title "intermediate" would imply that perhaps you'd be able to take the JLPT level 4 or level 3. But without even knowledge of katakana and not knowing at least 200 kanji, something like the JLPT lvl 4 is still something very far from your ability. (JLPT lvl 1 is the hardest, requires you to know 2000+ kanji)

 

[kyo28]

RSR, my knowledge of Mozilla is limited. I would suggest switching to IE or Firefox to be able to read Japanese.

Regarding levels, I think it depends who you talk to. I've noticed some use 'academic' levels, where intermediate means you're already able to handle daily life conversations and lecture. I think what RSR refers to is 'even class' levels, where standards are usually lowered.

For Japanese I tend to think in terms of beginner, beginner-intermediate, intermediate-advanced, advanced ... coinciding roughly with JLPT 4-1.