Kamen Rider Joker vs KickHopper & PunchHopper

Even if they could Clock up, could The Flash ever beat Batman? Almost exactly the same differences here too.

Hell, if Shotaro could figure out how to rescue Wakana from the strongest Dopant ever without transforming, I'm pretty sure he'd figure out a way with Joker.
 
and the very first meeting between Kick Hopper and Kabuto where they were a total match....

...? I YouTubed Kick Hopper's first appearance. Tendou had just been triple-teamed by the monster of the week, that one female worm, TheBee, and a bunch of random worms. He was about to be killed when KickHopper showed up, so if KickHopper matched with him then...
 
Actually, both Kick Hopper and Punch Hopper had a clock up. It was explained in the Masked Rider System Photobook that they had the ability to do so, plus in the PS2 game they show as having clock up.

The trick to the fight is, can shotaro separate the hoppers from each other. The two hoppers need each other, because they are essential incomplete versions of the Bee, in the terms of style. If shotaro can do this, then he can win. But if, and thats a big IF, the hoppers did clock up, all they needed to do is remove the memory from the slot.
 

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